I HATE FLAMERS, just posted it, ran a list actually similair to this, khorne/ tzech. with slow and purposeful icons. I HATE FLAMERS. im tired of paying 35 pts for a unit with scout stats. ive decided never to use them again, as they vary greatly depending on terrain. to much so. and I HATE EM. THEY AINT GOT 2+ SV OR 3+ SV OR 2 WOUNDS OR 5 TOUGHNESS, I.....HATE.....EM.