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Don't really this if you don't want to know what happens.

I thought the book was epic, started off a little slow but got better and better. Loved how it settled the whole "Did he know" debate which has been going on for ages.

Some of the bits where a bit unusual such as the Thousand Son being able to destroy his psychic abilities. The whole "argo" part annoyed me, it made me feel like it was part of another book because I didn't know what was going on, but I'm guessing that's what the writer was trying to achieve.

A lot of grammar mistakes though, a lot of missing words etc.
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Could you spoil a full story please?
I wonna know if it have this band of 6 marines battles againsts Horus Chaos SM, OR IT SIMPLY imperial forces trying to kill this astropath hole book?
And i think "Did he know is about Dark Angel Primarch?
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Don't read the spoiler below unless you want to know the gist of the entire story.


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1 question through - spoiler alert:

Who is this Thunder Lords?
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The Thunder Lord was the Banner bearer of the Emperor during the last war of Unity, a renowned "hero" even the Astartes knew about. In this book it's clear that Thunder Warriors where just as tough and powerful as a Marine, just an earlier design.
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The Thunder Lord was the Banner bearer of the Emperor during the last war of Unity, a renowned "hero" even the Astartes knew about. In this book it's clear that Thunder Warriors where just as tough and powerful as a Marine, just an earlier design.
does the book touch on what makes a marine superior to a thunder warrior? why does the Emperor switch to marines?
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Yeah, it states that theres a genetic flaw in the Thunder Warriors, they where never meant to be used to crusade throughout the galaxy, it's stated the Emperor did it deliberately so that he would get all the praise once the battle for Unity was over. The Thunder Lord accepted it since he was a servant of the Emperor and acknowledged his role in the universe, however he still wanted to correct this flaw which is why he stole bits of the dead marines in an attempt to "cure" him and his lieutenants flaw.

Another spoiler here for what the lieutenant does when he faces the marines first -


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Seems like a bizaree story line.

Not against that or anything, just seems a tad "out there"

Let the Galaxy Burn.
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Aye, it's all about pre-destination, the future, the past and the choices the Emperor has to make or has made.
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Sounds great to me. I am going to buy this book just to read the explanations in the authour's words. I love stories that explore the origins/history of 40k. It does seem a bit odd that the Emperor doesn't just start out with Astartes though. I've always thought that the Thunder Warriors are unintentionally flawed and that the Emperor designs the Astartes to fix the problem.

This is interesting though. I hope the explanation makes sense in the novel.
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