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Originally Posted by Stephen74 View Post
Prospero Burns was ok as a book, not that well written imo, but it has so little to do with the heresy that isn't covered in a Thousand Sons. There is a minor issue about Magnus using someone as a spy, but it goes nowhere.

99% of the book is about fluffing up the space wolves and it does so badly. The issue of 'no wolves on fenris' for example is just left hanging before being totally ballsed up by events in A Thousand Sons.

This book can be completely left out of the HH series and the series would be better for doing so.
I would literally couldn't disagree any more, especially on 'not that well written', it's probably the best written novel of the series, regardless of plot.

But, there have been entire threads on the conflicting opinions of Prospero Burns, so pretty off topic.
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Discussion pertaining to the quality of prose in Prospero Burns may be slightly off-topic, but it's addition in an idealised chronological placement of Horus Heresy novels isn't.

Well, regardless of how the novel was for you, Stephen74, I don't believe it should be dropped because of a perceived disparity in quality. I had no major issues with Ben Counter's attempt, I'll admit, but there's a rather large disparity in writing skill between the first two Horus-centric novels and Galaxy in Flames... tbh. I'm not going to discard it from the list, though -- it's still the most meaty account of the original Legions' purging we have.

Now this relates back to, ''But, bobss, PB didn't add anything significant to the overreaching Heresy which A Thousand Sons didn't already cover.'' Are you sure? Because once again, I'm reminded of Horus' speech of clearing the board of two mighty Legions. I'm not sure if this idea was even broached in McNeill's work, let alone by Horus; the Warmaster; the centerpiece of the Traitor Legions. ATS did indeed have a big sexy ultra mega battle of glorious 30k-scale bolter porn, but it was also an exploration into its advocated Legion as much as PB was.

At the end of the day, both books were designed to belong to a duology, and Abnett certainly upheld his end of the bargain, as so to speak. It'll be in my list, but if it isn't in yours, then hey: different strokes for different folks.

Aaand one final thing. Sure, we may be rearranging the novel's placement because, well, we're fans and that's what fans do, but let's not forget it's entertainment. When I read my chronological list, I still want all of that juicy Vlka Fenryka detail or human contingents that Abnett does so well. I still want a vague reference to the sacking of a Craftworld and the return of Horus Lupercal by Abnett himself -- one of, if not the best Primarch portrayal in the HH.
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I read a dozen books out of order then started everything over in order by release.

As disbanded as the story is, it does seem to make more sense in the order they have released them.

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

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