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Yeah Honsou is the king of the Iron Warriors. He never gives up, and refuses to believe anything is beyond him. Plus he isn't afraid to show disrespect, like when he spits on Toramino and insults Berossus.

Honsou and Ventris will have a reckoning in The Chapter's Due but I dont think it'll be the end for them. Honsou and Ventris are too great to die.
It's funny that people tend to call him the best. I never considered Honsou to be one of the big boys of the iron warrior warsmiths. Certainly for an upstart he's done damn well against Toramino and Berossus, even with Ventris on "god mode" so to speak ruining his stuff. I think his imperial fists genes will be a bit of a glass ceiling for him within the legion elite, but I guess he wouldn't be too interested in being part of it. He seems to be more of a loner for the moment, having built a rag tag army for himself in the skull harvest. Looking forward to chapter's due.

(Heh, I'm derailing my own thread.)
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Thats the reason that I like him. He is a Son of Dorn, the most hated enemies of the Iron Warriors. Its a miracle they didn't gut him when they learned what he was, and despite this he is now one of the most powerful Warsmiths alive, only ones more powerful are The Warsmith and Perturabo, who isn't doing anything anymore.



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I think Honsou should kill Uriel. I mean, I kind of like them both, no matter how impropable Uriel is (might've gotten a miniature version of that one engine from Hitchhikers Guide somewhere hidden.. the bastard). But in the end..

When they fight again, if it will be 1 vs 1, then they both would die and the chaos gods would resurrect Honsou.

Or, the Newborn will fight Uriel and so on.

One thing tho.. I'm kind of worried about the Newborn. Just hope he will never turn away from chaos, not even for a second. There's no good coming out of trying to redeem him. No matter whose clone it is.

There's no such thing as a villian.
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I think that The Newborn will be redeemed at the last moments before he dies, realizing his true legacy as an Ultramarine. Honsou and Cadaras Grendel will escape Ultramar though, those two are a good pair and aren't about to die any time soon. Wish I could have said the same about Onyx .



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Thats the reason that I like him. He is a Son of Dorn, the most hated enemies of the Iron Warriors. Its a miracle they didn't gut him when they learned what he was, and despite this he is now one of the most powerful Warsmiths alive, only ones more powerful are The Warsmith and Perturabo, who isn't doing anything anymore.
Well I don't know...there are big bad's like Ferrous Ironclaw, second grand company warsmith, in the legion.
(even though there's not much written about him...and I know he's the warsmith of one of the game designers, but I can't remember who)
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Who was the guy who mentored uriel? he was pretty smooth running!

Let the Galaxy Burn.
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Ventris is a dick because he is everything Honsou is not.
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In fact he is a strong example of why some many people dislike the Ultramarines, that whole winning against impossible odds thing!

He turns up on Medrengard, a world which has been fortified by the Iron Warriors without being hindered by the laws of physics, this is literally the perfect fortress. And basically screws with Honsou... seriously?!

And thats aside from the fact this is in the Eye of Terror - and he would have probably gone insane fairly quickly.
Agreed, I was pretty pissed off when Honsou's plans got destroyed over that bullshit. Thats pretty much the reason why people would dislike like Uriel. You can't compare him to Honsou, see that shits crazy.

I think the ultrasmurff was pretty much used as a pawn by the chaos gods to get the Iron Warriors to do more for them than just sitting on their home world and building their lego fortresses . The Iron Warriors are possibly the one legion to do little or nothing for the satisfaction of the Chaos Gods. They sold their souls to chaos, but chaos wants more. The Iron Warriors are happy sitting on their homeworld fortifying and using their chaos mutations to make them more powerful. If any legion has gained more from benefit than loss it would be the Iron Warriors.

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The Iron Warriors are awesome.

That is all.

All of this has happened before.
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I have no problem with Ventris, he is one of those "Against all odds" Marines, who never dies!! But thats how he was written, to be the main man and live forever. Badass IMO

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