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post #51 of 61 (permalink) Old 08-03-12, 06:55 PM
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Its really interesting to see these view points, some peoples favourates are amongst my worst reading experiences, with that said here goes:

The best:
Daemon World,
Farseer,
Execution Hour,
Shadow Point,
Ciaphas Cane (although the most recent book indicates the series has run its course),
The Nightlords series,
Fulgrim,
The Emperors Gift.

The worst:
Emperors Mercy (by far, kept on a seperate shelf from the rest of my books),
Sons of Dorn,
Rynns World,
Helsreach,
Descent of Angels,
Fallen Angels,
and to add the last lot of Space Wolves books after William King stopped writing them.

Kings books got me into the Warhammer Universe, Lightner would have got me back out of it!

I find the best books get read very quickly and I will re-read chapters over and over whilst the worst can take me ages to finish and every page can be a struggle.

Honestly I have been the closest to giving up on Emperors Mercy and Sons of Dorn, I thought they were absolutely awful

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Im rather new to BL books (only been reading them for about 8 months - theres far too much catching up to do!) but my list so far would have to be

The Good
Soul Hunter
Legion
Flight of the Eisenstien
Battle of the Fang
Eisenhorn Trilogy

The Bad
Hunt for Voldorius (i cannot emphasise how hard i found this to finish)
Battle for the Abyss
Catechism of Hate
Fallen Angels
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Heres so of my favourites:

GOOD
- Titanicus
- Angels of Darkness
- Some of HH series
- Few in GG series
- Hellsreach
- Night lords trilogy
- Lord of Night
- Execution Hour
- Eisenhorn
- Space Marine
- Storm of Iron

BAD
- Fallen Angels
- Battle of the Abyss
- Space Wolf series
- Blood angels Omni 1
- Salamander trilogy (second was ok)
- Hunt for Voldorius
- Last 3 Ultramarine books by GM
- Ghostmaker
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I googled "best Warhammer 40k Novel" and this is the first substantive dialog it came up with. I read all 6 pages, gave me a good feel for things. Just wanted to pop in and say thanks.

Based on the suggestions (and my own preferences) I have the

Ultramarine
GG
Ravenor
Eisenhorn Omnimbi (sp? lol)

on the way from amazon right now. (not that Ill get to them right away , devouring RR Martins Song of Ice & Fire at the Moment!)


I'm blind-tired right now but it is it... er.. Thousands Suns / Prospero Burns that are sort of "one novel" ? Also Battle of the Fang that isn't really a stand-alone story either right? I'm sure the info is burried in here somewhere I'm just about to pass out and wanted to get this written down before i forget.

Also does it go Grey Knights Omnibus > Emperors Gift , reading order wise?


Thanks again.

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The Good:

- GG (esp the first 2 arcs),
- Eisenhorn/Ravenor,
- Horus Rising
- Double Eagle (the best 40k book written imho),
- 13th Legion/Kill Team

The Bad:

- Rebel Dawn (fuck me with a broom and call me Sandy thats a terrible book),
- Battle For The Abyss (I don't think its as bad as people make out but its not great)
- Mechanicum (Other than revealing the odd interesting thing I felt it was shit boring on the whole, more focus on the Knights and less on the chosen one/kaban machine bullshit would have been better).
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Best
Galaxy in Flames
The First Heretic
Night Lords Trilogy (Soul Hunter, Blood Reaver, Void Stalker)
Gaunt's Ghost: Necropolis
Fulgrim

Worst
Battle for the Abyss
Nemisis
Mechanicus
Space Wolve Omnivus
Fear to Tread


More to come on both. Siege of Castellax is sort of good, I'll have to wait and see.


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Best is either the Eisenhorn Trilogy or the The Night Lords Trilogy. My worst would be Wrath of Iron as its the only book I have stopped reading out of pure gut wrenching boredom.

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I'm blind-tired right now but it is it... er.. Thousands Suns / Prospero Burns that are sort of "one novel" ? Also Battle of the Fang that isn't really a stand-alone story either right? I'm sure the info is burried in here somewhere I'm just about to pass out and wanted to get this written down before i forget.

Also does it go Grey Knights Omnibus > Emperors Gift , reading order wise?


Thanks again.
A Thousand Suns is about the fall of Magnus the Red from both his and TS higher ups perspective and culminates in the burning of Prospero. Prospero Burns is a story about a Space Wolves Skal that.... is involved in a bunch of things. It features the burning of Prospero but its not the main attraction, in fact its more a study of the Space Wolves belief structure.

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And finally the award for most over rated goes to...It's a tie. Eisenhorn and Ravenor. When other npeople talk about how great they are I am reminded of high school. People used to talk about how great Nirvana were and how Curt Cobain was a genius. I'd look right at them and say "he can barely play 3 chords on the guitar and their songs sound like they were written by a 10 year old." I honestly don't get it. To me the strength of the GG series is the wealth of characters. I feel that everyone who isn't the title character in there series gets short changed. And for a series that lends itself to having a chance at some epic villians, I can't think of one that was really memorable.

I read the first 3 GG books and was bored to tears. I cared nothing for any of the characters, there were too many characters and the rest of it was bolter porn. Eisenhorn was a noir detective story told from a first person perspective so how is it supposed to fully flesh out the supporting characters? The answer is it can't and it shouldn't. The books are about Gregor Eisenhorn.

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Best: Eisenhorn + Ravenor.

Worst: Anything by Goto. His books go something like this...

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Ahhh Goto... I often wonder what his first drafts (pre edit) would look like...

"And then the Blood Raven terminator captain went super saiyan, shot fireballs from his asshole and destroyed the advancing ork army... He then teleported back aboard his battlebarge and opened his navigators eye and lead the ship single handily through the warp back to Terra where he sat himself upon the golden throne and powered the Astronomican by way of his utter awesomeness. The end"

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