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post #71 of 77 (permalink) Old 04-18-16, 06:44 PM
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Just finished this. Very happy reader! Last few heresy books have been a bit of a struggle, hearty slap on the back to Mr Haley. His night long lords would easily give ADB's a run for their money. Nasty little gits they are. Loved Haley since baneblade, hope to see more of him.
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Just finished this. Very happy reader! Last few heresy books have been a bit of a struggle, hearty slap on the back to Mr Haley. His night long lords would easily give ADB's a run for their money. Nasty little gits they are. Loved Haley since baneblade, hope to see more of him.

Easily is an understatement. ADB did a terrible job describing Night Lords. This book did VERY WELL describing them!

Either way, this was quite a good book. I finished it a few weeks ago. I really liked it!

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Guess I'm in the minority. I found it very meh. It wasn't unenjoyable but neither was it anything special. I did find the Night Lords to be overly cartoon villain like. I'd rather ADB stuck with them.
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Yea I thought the Night Lords were over the top. I enjoyed the book but I don't want the villains to be bad guys, doing bad things because they want to achieve some bad end. It's not interesting. Antagonists who use brutal means to achieve some kind of positive outcome (even if misguided) is relatable, but most Night Lord stuff I've read (only HH) is just them being evil for the sake of it. The World Eaters, Emperor's Children, Sons of Horus, Thousand Sons etc. are more nuanced

Kurze is somewhat more nuanced at times (even if I'm sick of reading about him) but overall I think the Night Lords are one of the most poorly handled legions in the HH series so far, which is a shame because I like some aspects of their background

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...The World Eaters... are more nuanced.
Well, that's a problem! If the story of the frothing madmen is more nuanced there's a pretty serious issue.

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Found it so-so

Haley's Sanguinus and Guilliman were bland

His NL were tolerable

Haley is no ADB (not as good)

...but he is no Kyme/Swallow/Thorpe either. He is much more bearable than these three
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Found it so-so

Haley's Sanguinus and Guilliman were bland

His NL were tolerable

Haley is no ADB (not as good)

...but he is no Kyme/Swallow/Thorpe either. He is much more bearable than these three
Yeah I'd agree on all those points.
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