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Angron had a rather......tense encounter with a warhound in betrayer, clearly right on the edge of his ability.
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Yeah, Although unfortunately for Vulkan, the Beast can do more than just lift his foot and try to stomp him. His weaponary must be stupidly massive. Im thinking his guns must be capable of killing titans lol.

Lets see what the Eldar will do and if there'll be a Custodian response in return. These books are getting more and more exciting with each release.
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I agree, this is a good series
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Just to throw in an outside the odds comment. Anyone considered that the beast isn't an ork at all? That the orks are being used by another being who is manipulating and magnifying their physic potential, giving the orks the drive to be what we see in the books so far. Will the traitor legions play a bigger role than we imagine? Could the thousand sons be up to old tricks? The great coverup could be the imperium blaming it on the orks do no one knows the arch enemy is still at work. Once the beast is killed the orks will loose their cohesion and be easily defeated. Just a thought.....
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Just to throw in an outside the odds comment. Anyone considered that the beast isn't an ork at all? That the orks are being used by another being who is manipulating and magnifying their physic potential, giving the orks the drive to be what we see in the books so far. Will the traitor legions play a bigger role than we imagine? Could the thousand sons be up to old tricks? The great coverup could be the imperium blaming it on the orks do no one knows the arch enemy is still at work. Once the beast is killed the orks will loose their cohesion and be easily defeated. Just a thought.....
That's a cool theory...but would really undermine the Orks' ability to be a massive threat in their own right
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Just to throw in an outside the odds comment. Anyone considered that the beast isn't an ork at all? That the orks are being used by another being who is manipulating and magnifying their physic potential, giving the orks the drive to be what we see in the books so far. Will the traitor legions play a bigger role than we imagine? Could the thousand sons be up to old tricks? The great coverup could be the imperium blaming it on the orks do no one knows the arch enemy is still at work. Once the beast is killed the orks will loose their cohesion and be easily defeated. Just a thought.....
That's a cool theory...but would really undermine the Orks' ability to be a massive threat in their own right
I'm not sure it does. In my head the ork threat is explosive it's directed at one target in a huge wave of aggressive anger and hate which just overwhelms in its power. It's a likely to implode on itself as it is to emerge victorious. This is different and I sense a controlling mind which is decidedly unorky. To control the orks natural power which is rooted in explosive power would take someone who has the ability to harness the orks natural connection to the warp.

I don't think this takes away at all from the orks power. It is exactly how orks, in 40k, work.

Whether the 40k ork makes for a good ork is a different argument. The 40k ork isn't like the organised brutal regiments we see in other fantasy genres. But they are what they are.
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You forget about Ullanor. I speculate that a grand ork like Urrlak Uruk or the Beast might be the end result if an ork empire can settle and gain a modicum of stability with an overlord capable of controlling his fractitous underlings.

If you look at it, so many waaghs are warbosses looking to carve out a name for themselves and get established. Most gets toppled and killed before they can progress to the next stage such as the ork empire of charadon.

Ghazhkull thraka seems well on the way to ascend to the grand ork stage, having an unusual level of control and direction on his growing empire, thanks to his psyker abilities to command through the warp. As well not falling into the trap of trying to do everything himself, but delegating out battles to capable bosses. That to me, shows what the ork mind is capable of once rising to the task.
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Good points we shall have to wait and see! What ever way it turns out it's a great series so far. Maybe the beast will be Tony Blair??
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You forget about Ullanor. I speculate that a grand ork like Urrlak Uruk or the Beast might be the end result if an ork empire can settle and gain a modicum of stability with an overlord capable of controlling his fractitous underlings.

If you look at it, so many waaghs are warbosses looking to carve out a name for themselves and get established. Most gets toppled and killed before they can progress to the next stage such as the ork empire of charadon.

Ghazhkull thraka seems well on the way to ascend to the grand ork stage, having an unusual level of control and direction on his growing empire, thanks to his psyker abilities to command through the warp. As well not falling into the trap of trying to do everything himself, but delegating out battles to capable bosses. That to me, shows what the ork mind is capable of once rising to the task.
If you think about it most of the time orks aren't matured, so they're violent aggressive and want to do everything themselves.

Then you get an ork like ghazkull or the Beast, they survive the early scraps and turn into commanders.
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