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I imagine you're talking about panzies since i saw the cover of that book. Seriously tho, no mention of custodians in this book?
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Correct. My speculation is that the eldar is somehow going for the ruptured imperial webway, which will directly threaten the Emperor.
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If the Beast Kills Vulkan...how? Vulkan is Perpetual
are you sure he still is, he might only have John his life left ?
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The Last Wall puzzled me, not only due to lack of any Custodes, and Titan Legios but the general lack of anything else in the Solar System, the most densely populated and inhabited system in the galaxy.

The fleets around Mars? The shipyards from Mars to Jupiters moons? Titan is still in the warp?

The shipyards around the hollowed out fortress that is the Moon? The orbital plates, ring and defences of Terra?

Perhaps Horus scoured the system clean during the Siege but it seems that 1500 years after the Heresy Terra is protected by a single fleet, and a single chapter of Fists in a Solar System empty of all bar Mars. and Mars is missing its multiple defence and explorator fleets and multiple Ark Mechanicus's.
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The Last Wall puzzled me, not only due to lack of any Custodes, and Titan Legios but the general lack of anything else in the Solar System, the most densely populated and inhabited system in the galaxy.

The fleets around Mars? The shipyards from Mars to Jupiters moons? Titan is still in the warp?

The shipyards around the hollowed out fortress that is the Moon? The orbital plates, ring and defences of Terra?

Perhaps Horus scoured the system clean during the Siege but it seems that 1500 years after the Heresy Terra is protected by a single fleet, and a single chapter of Fists in a Solar System empty of all bar Mars. and Mars is missing its multiple defence and explorator fleets and multiple Ark Mechanicus's.
I was quite surprised the Phalanx wasn't used in the attack on the moon. No mention of it in the book.

I really don't think the Eldar are here to do harm, I think they're here to actually help, if Terra falls surely that means an untold army of Daemons comes out of the Golden Throne which will threaten them more.

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Yeah I agree with Playingwithhammers, so far these books were excellent but the lack of proper defenses and military forces that the most important planet in entire imperium of mankind SHOULD have is just bugging me constantly.

Since when Terra was reduced to nothing but militia, merchant fleets and few imperial guard regiments? The books mention a lot of forces being away from Terra and Segmentum in general, but seriously? You would expect a planet that's 10 times more reinforced and defended than Cadia or even Ultramar. Honestly can't hide my dissapointment here.

On another hand, im slowly starting to be an Ork fan reading this series. The strategy of moving the mountains and encircling the crusade was beyond epic, and the fact a new breed of orks appeared ( those three ambassadors ) completely took me off-guard.

So not only Orks have crushed Iom in physical confrotation, but they have also evolved diplomats. I couldn't help but to laugh at the irony of Orks having more sense than humans.

Also: No mention of Vulkan in this book. It looks like you guys have been really refering to one of the books' titles, rather than something in the book. Alrighty.

Makes me wonder if new Ork codex might contain few of these new surprises. I dont expect Orks to be re-written as some kind of new, serious tactical military force like they're proving to be in these books but I'm positively pleased with what I've read so far.
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Well the imperium has grown staggeringly complacent in this time period. Theyve had a lenghty period of peace. Heck, the first book even had the high lords arguing if it was still needed to float the expenses of maintaining the space marine corps!

As it is, the imperium almost got KOed by this initial blow and struggling to scrape the bottom of the barrel to defend terra. This is what happens when deficit hawks runs the show!


I believe its this almost extinction level event caused by the orks, that is strongly to blame for making the imperium utterly virulently xenopobic, almost bought to the brink by xenos. And its the complacency and ineptness of the high lords that eventually spurs drakan vangoric into his terrible event to give the imperium a fresh start.
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Well the imperium has grown staggeringly complacent in this time period. Theyve had a lenghty period of peace. Heck, the first book even had the high lords arguing if it was still needed to float the expenses of maintaining the space marine corps!

As it is, the imperium almost got KOed by this initial blow and struggling to scrape the bottom of the barrel to defend terra. This is what happens when deficit hawks runs the show!


I believe its this almost extinction level event caused by the orks, that is strongly to blame for making the imperium utterly virulently xenopobic, almost bought to the brink by xenos. And its the complacency and ineptness of the high lords that eventually spurs drakan vangoric into his terrible event to give the imperium a fresh start.
The Emperor himself started the xenophobia.
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Enact The Last Wall and get the xenos pay for it.

Make Terra Great Again.
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So I'll repeat what somebody said earlier. How's anyone going to defeat a Warhound sized Warboss? I think even Vulkan should lose this, or at least win with some major help.
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