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I can buy a Space Marine surviving all that, not in any kind of good shape mind you and definitely as a "miracle" type event that shouldn't happen again, but I can buy it. As for them; Tarvitz is dead and should stay dead, Rylanor and Vipus on the other hand... I could accept them being alive because of the hidden shuttle thread in Fulgrim that was briefly hinted at, they could have escaped. Would they? I don't know, maybe if they felt they had to but I am not sure. Rylanor and Vipus showing up again would be pretty cool, especially since I felt Rylanor was criminally under-used. Tarvitz though... yeah him showing up again would be for me what Loken returning has been for most of the people here.
I just don't buy it. And simply won't either. Space Marines can survive a lot of shit. A City being obliterated is not one of them. If Loken lived, then Tarvitz should be alive too. Not that I want Tarvitz to be alive. I would rather they all stay dead. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if he survived as well now.
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I just don't buy it. And simply won't either. Space Marines can survive a lot of shit. A City being obliterated is not one of them. If Loken lived, then Tarvitz should be alive too. Not that I want Tarvitz to be alive. I would rather they all stay dead. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if he survived as well now.
But lolens survival means something. The mournival represents horus as a whole, each member a quarter of him. By killing of LOKEN and Tarik, horus thought to kill off the weaker parts of himself. Lokens survival in my opinion, gives horus self doubt now. And lolen may be the reason why Horus turns good just before his death

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It really doesn't.



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It really doesn't.
I guess you only read 40k for the big battttttttttles

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Yes mate. That's exactly it. I only read for battles and death and shooty pew pew space guns and splosions maaaaaannnnnnnnn. Because I'm too thick to actually read something with actually decent prose, characterisation and no self contradictory continuity errors.

Meanwhile, I don't know what shit you're smoking when you're trying to find all this hyperbolic nonsense you're spewing. "Killing off the weaker part of him"... Jesus.



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Yes mate. That's exactly it. I only read for battles and death and shooty pew pew space guns and splosions maaaaaannnnnnnnn. Because I'm too thick to actually read something with actually decent prose, characterisation and no self contradictory continuity errors.

Meanwhile, I don't know what shit you're smoking when you're trying to find all this hyperbolic nonsense you're spewing. "Killing off the weaker part of him"... Jesus.
I believe McNeill himself said what i said lol

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Would be helpful if McNeill wrote that in his stories then. McNeill's a dick, personality wise, and he couldn't write a decent book or story.



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Would be helpful if McNeill wrote that in his stories then. McNeill's a dick, personality wise, and he couldn't write a decent book or story.
I've never met him so I can't comment on his personality, but his stories are hit and miss

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And lolen may be the reason why Horus turns good just before his death
And therefore utterly ruin any credibility the series ever had.

Horus 'turns good', if that's what you want to call it, as the Emperor was in the process of obliterating him and the Chaos Gods withdrew themselves from his mind and presence. Loken, Ollanius, Sanguinius, had nothing to do with it.

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And then Horus throws the Emperor off a balcony and into the reactor. He collapses and Loken kneels down to look into his fathers eyes.
"I've got to save you."
Horus smiles sadly.
"You already have, Luke......."

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