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Knowing McNeill's flare for a shit twist. Loken as 'Cerberus' probably kills him somehow.
Did you at least like the whole cerberus bit?

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I wonder how many other people found out about Loken's return when they started reading Vengeful Spirit...

How annoying those short stories, audio dramas and limited editions are. Imagine JK Rowling did the same halfway through the Harry Potter series? Started releasing loads of mini stories, maybe an audio drama where Cedric Diggory returns?
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I found out about it through the osmosis on the forums I frequent. Because I don't pick up the audio's dealing with Garro etc (as a series within a series, it didn't come across as part of the Heresy in general), and have literally only just started listening to the audios elsewhere, if I didn't spend so much time around these forums, I'd have known nothing about it.



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I found out by reading vengeful spirit. I think Saul Tarvitz would have been a better choice then an emotionally damaged marine of dubious loyalty and abilty (compared to the other knights errant).

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I found out by reading vengeful spirit.
Were you not incredibly confused?
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Yeah I was. Only really found out the back story through this forum really. I dont buy the LE novella's or audio books so had no prior awareness so I was pretty confused when a damaged Loken strolls over for a chat witn Malcador and Russ. The PTSD affected Loken character really didnt seem to fit the setting in my opinion but I guess thats why they had a SW knight errant there to execute him if he turned........

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I blame Ben counter for this mostly. Loken should have died but way it was written was just blah. Yes we understand he is a hero of series but so are bad guys. He should have died to show that he is just one small hero among numerous others and tragedy of massacre would have affected people even more.

And his appearance in Vengefull spirit was totally unnecessary and poorly executed. Another extremely lucky escape, he will be dodging every bullet like some superman.
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Dead. Deader. And thrice Deaded!

However, his "death" was utter shite and should have been either a final duel with Horace, or as mentioned elsewhere, a sudden unexpected death just like thousands of other Astartes.


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How does that work for you? A Cathedral, fell on him, after he had already been beaten half to death by Abaddon. And once again. how on earth do you suppose he survived the orbital bombardment?? What's your stance on Tarvitz, Rylanor, Vipus? Hmm?
I can buy a Space Marine surviving all that, not in any kind of good shape mind you and definitely as a "miracle" type event that shouldn't happen again, but I can buy it. As for them; Tarvitz is dead and should stay dead, Rylanor and Vipus on the other hand... I could accept them being alive because of the hidden shuttle thread in Fulgrim that was briefly hinted at, they could have escaped. Would they? I don't know, maybe if they felt they had to but I am not sure. Rylanor and Vipus showing up again would be pretty cool, especially since I felt Rylanor was criminally under-used. Tarvitz though... yeah him showing up again would be for me what Loken returning has been for most of the people here.

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I blame Ben counter for this mostly.
I don't, though that is because I am one of the number that don't believe Ben Counter wrote the two Horus Heresy novels that he is credited with. I've read all of Counter's 40k stuff and neither Galaxy in Flames or Battle for the Abyss have the narrative style and descriptive flair that all of Counter's other works have; therefore I think that GiF and BftA were ghost-written by someone else.


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I can buy a Space Marine surviving all that, not in any kind of good shape mind you and definitely as a "miracle" type event that shouldn't happen again, but I can buy it. As for them; Tarvitz is dead and should stay dead, Rylanor and Vipus on the other hand... I could accept them being alive because of the hidden shuttle thread in Fulgrim that was briefly hinted at, they could have escaped. Would they? I don't know, maybe if they felt they had to but I am not sure. Rylanor and Vipus showing up again would be pretty cool, especially since I felt Rylanor was criminally under-used. Tarvitz though... yeah him showing up again would be for me what Loken returning has been for most of the people here.


I don't, though that is because I am one of the number that don't believe Ben Counter wrote the two Horus Heresy novels that he is credited with. I've read all of Counter's 40k stuff and neither Galaxy in Flames or Battle for the Abyss have the narrative style and descriptive flair that all of Counter's other works have; therefore I think that GiF and BftA were ghost-written by someone else.

Ya, i mean this is 40k after all. An astartes survivng this is that strange
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