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... Not really.

... And no it wasn't
Thats a matter of opinion @Vaz, just like its @Garviel loken's opinion that they are good.

I mean personally I loved Galaxy in Flames but found The Unremembered Empire to be mediocre.

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Really only Abnett, ADB, french, and counter should touch the heresy
Are you sure you don't mean Wraight? Counter gave us the universally derided Battle of the Abyss
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Yes that makes a statement, but i dont want to see harm done to BL. I would rather them know what the fans think, then straight up boycott them
Well my understanding of marketing when selling products is that nobody listen to the opinions on the Internet. Because otherwise Firefly wouldn't have been cancelled or Kim Kardashian wouldn't be famous. But companies do listen to numbers. Terrible games like COD are continued to be sold since 12-year-olds keeps on buying them. This thread was mostly aimed to see the opinions of others how the series has fallen as of late and it has been obvious in the drop of thread-discussions regarding the novels. I haven't seen a interactive discussion regarding a novel from the series since TOD because it was so terrible. I do want BL to keep up high quality-material but they focus on the wrong things and market it the wrong way.

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Tho, can we really blame BL for the poor novels as of late? I think that is more of poor writers. Really only Abnett, ADB, french, and counter should touch the heresy
I would really not keep Counter on that list and replace it with Wraight, and at certain times I still believe in McNeill.

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Thats a matter of opinion @Vaz, just like its @Garviel loken's opinion that they are good.

I mean personally I loved Galaxy in Flames but found The Unremembered Empire to be mediocre.
But at the same time BftA was god-awful, but all opinions to their own taste.

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Are you sure you don't mean Wraight? Counter gave us the universally derided Battle of the Abyss
I would wonder the same.
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but found The Unremembered Empire to be mediocre.
And I quite liked it! Everyone has different tastes.

Well... Except for Battle of the Abyss. That was a steaming turd and I just can't accept accolades for that book from anyone! Haha.

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I would really not keep Counter on that list and replace it with Wraight, and at certain times I still believe in McNeill.
Yeah, scratch Counter from that list. There are newer, younger and better authors entering BL now. I think his time has come and gone. French, Wright and Annadale are fantastic IMO. And don't right off old Anthony Reynolds. Love his 40K WB trilogy and quite enjoyed The Purge HH novella. He writes great WB's! (Nearly as good as ADB). As for McNeill. He can dish up the odd stinker, but then deliver something great out of left field like Mechanicum. Very hit and miss.


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Yeah, scratch Counter from that list. There are newer, younger and better authors entering BL now. I think his time has come and gone. French, Wright and Annadale are fantastic IMO. And don't right off old Anthony Reynolds. Love his 40K WB trilogy and quite enjoyed The Purge HH novella. He writes great WB's! (Nearly as good as ADB). As for McNeill. He can dish up the odd stinker, but then deliver something great out of left field like Mechanicum. Very hit and miss.
Annandale I've heard mixxed reviews from and I haven't read his HH-novel yet, and I aren't all that excited about it. Anthony Reynolds does great writing but he haven't written much for the HH-series which is why I think he falls into the background very easily. He has done 2 shorts and a LE novella, with the latter something not everyone get to read and enjoy.

McNeill did a good job with Fulgrim (I can see its flaws now but still a good book), Reflection Crack'd lowered that bar a little but still works and then he delivered A Thousand Sons which were excellente. But then he delivers failures like The Outcast Dead and to some extent, Angel Exterminatus (the EC-parts of that novel is it's only redemption). I actually like Nick Kymes shorts which continue after where Angel Exterminatus ended with Imperfection and Chirurgeon. Mechanicum was well-written. The only problem is that I'm not that interested in the Mechanicum-part of the Heresy.
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Counter is good.
Really? Have you read the soul drinkers stuff? "Soul Destroying" would be a more accurate title.......

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Are you sure you don't mean Wraight? Counter gave us the universally derided Battle of the Abyss
Well galaxy in flames is my second favourite novel, tho i havent read abyss out of fear

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Fixed that for you Monty
No i havent. Tho i heard good things about it if i recall correctly. Its not good at all?

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I like mcniell, but i find he over uses metaphors and over explains things. I liked VS.....well i liked the knight errant bits

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