Originally Posted by Malus Darkblade
Would the Imperial Fists or Ultramarines have picked up recruits with bad histories and inducted them into their ranks because psycho-indoctrination would absolve them of their sins? Psycho-indoctrination erases memories and brainwashes initiates, it doesn't change their core personalities.
Loyalty =/= Honour/Morality
Part of that brainwashing likely instilled loyalty to the Imperium. Brainwashing may have been more effective on some recruits than on others. Perhaps the brainwashing worked exceptionally well on loyalist Night Lords?
Look...sure you could be a nasty, sadistic thug, but why can't you be a nasty, sadistic thug who chooses to operate within the Imperium, instead of following your mad father on a self-destructive rampage?
The Terran Night Lords were the best of what the prison sinks had to offer i.e. the strongest/most willing to survive. In their underworld societies that meant joining gangs and raping left and right to prove your worth to gang leaders and killing for similar and other reasons.
The Terrans sound more like survivalists, less like Nostramans who lived under relatively decent conditions but in a morally corrupt society (Talos lives in an apartment with his mother who feeds him spaghetti)
Murder within the prison sinks was not committed out of desperation or in 'the heat of passion.'
I'm talking about why they were thrown in
It was to prove your strength to others so as to not become prey yourself and to survive (which is not the same as desperation).
Sounds kinda like desperation to me
In vast caverns filled with the half crushed ruins of millennia there lived men and women who had transgressed against the laws of their masters. Condemned never to see the light again or breathe free air, they lived out their lives in fear and blind darkness. There was no law in these lightless lands, and survival existed only by a blade's edge. Only the strongest and the most ruthless survived in the subterranean warrens, and those who did grew in cruelty and cunning.
...and these Terrans are inherently different from Cthonians how exactly?
You base the levels of depravity between the two on what exactly? Curze took out his homeworld because he could. He obviously could not have touched Terra.
Do you have a problem with Cthonian loyalists?
Cthonian society, while brutal and gang-like, has never been described as being anything close to what Nostromian/Terran prison-sink life was like.
Umm...have you read Betrayal's info on Cthonia? Cthonia sounds worse than either
Predatory, possibly cannibalistic murder-gangs roaming the collapsed subterranean tunnel network, killing and raiding because many enjoy the violence
If I were to choose one of them, it would be Nostramo first and then a toss-up between Cthonia and the prison-sinks, slightly preferring the prison-sinks. On Nostramo, I might get to live in an apartment and eat canned pasta