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Honestly, if ADB, Abnett or Wraight announced a RG novel, I'd still be yawning.
That's a good point. I really think it was the wrong move to make the dead legions resurrected. It really took the point away from the disaster of the Drop Site Massacre. In fact, I don't remember the last time I truly looked at the disaster and appreciated the culmination of the first 5 books and how the sinister and sad the Istvaan incidents truly were.

The Istvaan survivor stories are loads of bullshit. Literally thousands of survivors being able to survive being crushed by more than twice their size in an open killing field. Emperor goes... oh hey, lets give pretty much a top five secret to a destroyed legion for safe keeping.
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Not really. The smurfs are now done as far as the Heresy is concerned. Let's start moving towards Terra instead of dwelling on what is pretty much incidental from here on in.
There is still quite a significant part of the Imperium Secundus plotline to cover - that is how Sanguinius and the Blood Angels were able to make it relatively intact to Terra before Horus, whilst Guilliman and the XIII either couldn't or chose not to (or chose not to attempt the voyage).

Remember, at the end of The Unremembered Empire Sanguinius had just been proclaimed Emperor. I think that needs wrapping up. It should certainly make a more interesting plot than more Raven Guard anyway.



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There is still quite a significant part of the Imperium Secundus plotline to cover - that is how Sanguinius and the Blood Angels were able to make it relatively intact to Terra before Horus, whilst Guilliman and the XIII either couldn't or chose not to (or chose not to attempt the voyage).

Remember, at the end of The Unremembered Empire Sanguinius had just been proclaimed Emperor. I think that needs wrapping up. It should certainly make a more interesting plot than more Raven Guard anyway.
Or indeed, where the Lion went. Why did he not go to Terra with Sanguinius? How did he end up alongside Russ and make for Terra with him instead.
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There is still quite a significant part of the Imperium Secundus plotline to cover - that is how Sanguinius and the Blood Angels were able to make it relatively intact to Terra before Horus, whilst Guilliman and the XIII either couldn't or chose not to (or chose not to attempt the voyage).

Remember, at the end of The Unremembered Empire Sanguinius had just been proclaimed Emperor. I think that needs wrapping up. It should certainly make a more interesting plot than more Raven Guard anyway.
It should have been wrapped up in one book. I know they want to milk this thing for all it's worth, but we're that far in at this stage that everything should be going in only one direction. Terra. The how and the why of the BA journey could be handled in a short. It's pretty obvious what's going to happen there. The ruinstorm will abate enough for word to get through that Terra and the Emperor are still going strong, so Sang will pack up and head off, leaving his two doubt ridden brothers to their own devices. Why Girlyman decided to not bother could be handled in the same short.

As for the Salamanders, RG or IHs, if they are not heading for Terra they are surplus to requirements as far as the story arc is concerned.

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So nobody cares that Paul Kearney is writing for BL and that the Dark Hunters are getting their own series??


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So nobody cares that Paul Kearney is writing for BL and that the Dark Hunters are getting their own series??


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Not sure what to make of it yet to be honest. Haven't ready anything of his and like a lot of the Heresy for myself, things that are question marks for me have not been so good. But hey! Hopefully he writes some good stuff. I'm all for a good story!
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There is still quite a significant part of the Imperium Secundus plotline to cover - that is how Sanguinius and the Blood Angels were able to make it relatively intact to Terra before Horus, whilst Guilliman and the XIII either couldn't or chose not to (or chose not to attempt the voyage).

Remember, at the end of The Unremembered Empire Sanguinius had just been proclaimed Emperor. I think that needs wrapping up. It should certainly make a more interesting plot than more Raven Guard anyway.
I concur. I think there's a lot of fan bases that want more of their own stories told, however, I think it should be noted that the Ultramarines are probably clear victors for their own cause and will be highlight probably more than the Sons of Horus.
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It should have been wrapped up in one book.
I agree. Too much of that book was focussed on Curze being a ninja rather than the political decisions surrounding Imperium Secundus and its consequences. It was potentially one of the most intriguing sub-plots of the entire series. Oh well.

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It's pretty obvious what's going to happen there. The ruinstorm will abate enough for word to get through that Terra and the Emperor are still going strong, so Sang will pack up and head off, leaving his two doubt ridden brothers to their own devices. Why Girlyman decided to not bother could be handled in the same short.
Yep, I imagine that is what will happen. It should have all been covered in The Unremembered Empire to be honest.

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Not really. The smurfs are now done as far as the Heresy is concerned. Let's start moving towards Terra instead of dwelling on what is pretty much incidental from here on in.
Nah the ultramarines are going to get a lot more love. We still need to finish imperial secundus and adb himself said there is still more to come for them

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Nah the ultramarines are going to get a lot more love. We still need to finish imperial secundus and adb himself said there is still more to come for them
That's as may be, but it will be to the detriment of the series as a whole.

Calth, the ruin storm and it's aftermath removed the smurfs as players from the story line. Imperium Secundus can be dealt with in the inevitable Scouring series when the Heresy is done, but as of now they are surplus to requirements in this series.
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