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Lord - you are mistaking sooo much on that 'We've seen that particular object a grand total of once'
1) Fulgrim; 2) audio 'Warmaster' 3) 'Scars'; 4) 'Tallarn: Executioner'; 5) 'Damnation of Pythos'; 6) 'Iron Hands' (Green old W40K book); 7) WB trilogy; 8) 'UE';
9) Angel Exterminatus; 10) 'The Primarchs'; 11) 'Scoarched Earth'; 12) HH: Massacre; Extermination from the FW; etc.
If i had time - i would have given you the exact pages. So yes - it is beating dead horse all over again.
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Lord - you are mistaking sooo much on that 'We've seen that particular object a grand total of once'
1) Fulgrim; 2) audio 'Warmaster' 3) 'Scars'; 4) 'Tallarn: Executioner'; 5) 'Damnation of Pythos'; 6) 'Iron Hands' (Green old W40K book); 7) WB trilogy; 8) 'UE';
9) Angel Exterminatus; 10) 'The Primarchs'; 11) 'Scoarched Earth'; 12) HH: Massacre; Extermination from the FW; etc.
If i had time - i would have given you the exact pages. So yes - it is beating dead horse all over again.
Ok. Yes the object appears in Fulgrim, but considering that is it's first appearance, we can let that one go. I have not listened to the audio Warmaster so I can't speak about that. But I do not recall this object appearing or being mentioned in any of those other books/audios/etc that you quote. And even if it's been mentioned in passing, who the hell cares?! I am very curious how this particular object is going to be used, and exactly why Lufarion believes that it's so powerful. I am assuming that in the ten thousand years since it was "created" that Chaos has done something to it in order to make it a powerful relic/weapon/curio.


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Interesting actually. I may buy the book when it comes out. You actually wrote a descent battle scene there. I hope Kyme gives you some kind of commission.

I don't really have trouble with the head of Manus, but I think what he means is this theme of relics with the Salamanders. You may disagree with me, but at least in the last Salamander's novel it failed to accomplish much. I'm sure this news series is supposed to be a way of improving his stories and grabbing a new crowd. But I mean as we go through the series and find more relics... its gotta be a little cheesy.

However, this particular relic is interesting. So I'm looking forward to it. Again no hate towards the last series so maybe this one will be a better step. You gave a good synopsis.
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Ok. Yes the object appears in Fulgrim, but considering that is it's first appearance, we can let that one go. I have not listened to the audio Warmaster so I can't speak about that. But I do not recall this object appearing or being mentioned in any of those other books/audios/etc that you quote. And even if it's been mentioned in passing, who the hell cares?! I am very curious how this particular object is going to be used, and exactly why Lufarion believes that it's so powerful. I am assuming that in the ten thousand years since it was "created" that Chaos has done something to it in order to make it a powerful relic/weapon/curio.


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Was the head somewhat preserved in a stasis or was it essentially a skull?
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Was the head somewhat preserved in a stasis or was it essentially a skull?
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Interesting actually. I may buy the book when it comes out. You actually wrote a decent battle scene there.
There are some very good battle scenes in the book, especially;




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Seems pretty good. I'll give it a try when it comes out. Adding the part of the Iron Hands being part of the codex makes a bit of sense, and before that I could sense a confrontation and perhaps a whole story on its own considering the Iron Hands seem to be the most intact during the heresy.
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I found Rebirth an Ok, if fairly forgettable read. A bit too many similar named characters to keep track of. But the pov of the traitors was by far the highlights of the book.

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I found Rebirth an Ok, if fairly forgettable read. A bit too many similar named characters to keep track of. But the pov of the traitors was by far the highlights of the book.
This is exactly what my friend has said, and what i'm thinking. He has not progressed too much from his 'Salamanders' series
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This is exactly what my friend has said, and what i'm thinking. He has not progressed too much from his 'Salamanders' series
Aye, definitely quite a mile up to Fall of Damnos where he shone a lot more as an author. Now that was a great read.

Edit: There was multiple storylines in the book, and Ill say:

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An interview with Kyme that confirms some rather interesting stuff about Rebirth. Apparantely the story will be about the Salamanders 6th Company under Ur'zen Drakgaard, one of the Reserve Companies. And that is also one of the themes of the story, a Reserve Company trying to prove that it is as valuable as a Battle Company. I find that interesting because not a lot is done with the Companies six-through-nine of any Chapter, the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th tend to be the focuses. This could be a very interesting plot.

Grastalyx, the Daemon Prince and new Big Bad of the series, has been confirmed to have been a Luna Wolf and that will be important in both his character, motives and in parts of the story.

The Emperor's Children have been confirmed to be in the novel as well, specifically Lufarion and his warband The Incarnadine Host from Kyme's audio-drama Perfection. I really enjoyed that audio so I am looking forward to seeing Lufarion again, especially if he is still seeking perfection.
It would have gotten my interest if Kyme hadn't proven me several times his books doesn't interest me. I've only found his short in The Sabbats World-anthology to be actually good and Perfection worked mostly cause he borrowed much from Grahams Fulgrim, which is good so we see connection and continuation. The story itself was interesting as well to add a detective-story within a bolter porn-audio drama. Personally I would have wanted to see more of the EC-characters alone rather than cameos in this new trilogy. Also Lufarion is the last of his warband right? Are there any other than him left?


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Well the law of randomisation or something similar states that a group of monkeys in a room with a load of typewriters will eventually write the complete works of Shakespeare. In the meantime, we're stuck with what a monkey named Kyme has randomtyped on his keys between poo-flinging.

He always was crap on the WD team, and giving him a job like this has only made it worse. Him and Dunn.
Would agree here. I bought a Dunn short about the Emperors Children. It was 50% Emperors Children barely, and 50% wank feast for his Crimson Slaughter Renegade Chapter. It's like he tries to force them and DA into all of his stories.
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