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Absolute gopping mess. I'm going to preface this, with a 1.5/10, and maybe lower. The worst book in the Heresy series, and yes, I'm including Battle for the Abyss, Prospero Burns, AND the Outcast Dead in this list. Know No Fear and Fear to Tread, despite fairly poor writing actually have the saving grace of "shit happens".

The Iron Hands, about as cool an idea as possible, Terminators in Power Armour, Flesh is weak, replace with logical machines, and yet the Primarch realised that his sons were going too far, in some poetic parallel with the Word Bearers.

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SO BORING?

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SO FUCKING IDIOTIC?

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU NOT HAVE FRIDGE LOGIC? IT'S A KIND OF FUCKING LOGIC.

It's Bolter Porn, and not even good Bolter porn. It's Space Marine Battles novel, with references to Chapter's Ctrl+F'd and replaced with Legions, with the tick-box BL seem to have of having three legions mentioned per novel that seems to be the running trend (TUE; UM, DA, BA/TVS; UM, BA, SoH/DoP; IH/RG/Sal) to have it labled a Heresy novel.

Nothing important happens. A few Space Marines start off with X plot armoured characters go to a world, kill something to tick the "ooh kill'em" box, then they go back to the planet, where people begin to die, and some fucking idiot can't read the writing on the wall, and the Space Marines have the ability to read threat indicators like a blind 3 year old.

They deserve to die, and you want them to die for being such cunting retards.

There is one interesting bit - the demon summoned (you might as well know, you can spot it a mile off, and I'll save you 10+) is an anagram of Lamiad. This is either intentional, or about the shittest name for the BBEG since... nope. It's the shittest name ever. Madail? Seriously? Mad Ale? Fucking hell.

The characters are not even that. They're caricatures of extremes of the legions used as a statement, and very poorly.

The words written are of an entirely different story, then run through a Thesaurus to give it some false je ne sais quoi, some form of fake integrity and depth that some vapid twat you're speaking to uses big words to make themselves sound more intelligent. This isn't just the typical overbearing bumf you're used to in 40K where they make up words all the time. This is purposely annoying uses of deliberately archaic terminology.

Annandale is not established or capable enough to pull it off.

And the end of the story? Everyone dies, pointlessly and needlessly. It's a self contained book, with no references to the Primarchs short of Ferrus Manus is dead, and no characters you were aware of (sans some minor short, IIRC?), nor need to care about. Even the shitty subplot of Vengeful Spirit with Loken was better written (because really? Who got Vengeful spirit to read about Loken? I got it to see Horus in action with the Mournival in tow).

This is the worst book in the entire series.



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I have absolutely no interest in this book anyway, might be my fight HH book in this series that i will never read. It is just a meaningless sidestory so it seems. Good to hear something really negative about books aswell, some people here normally gives too much credit to novels of HH series.

Makes me ask, should they start put these to Space marine battles novels category or start producing their own HH: Space marine battles series. They could even add battles from Great crusade era.
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It really pains me to say this but I believe ghostwriting is something that is taking place behind the scenes in BL.
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It really pains me to say this but I believe ghostwriting is something that is taking place behind the scenes in BL.
I'm actually eighteen separate entities, and not one of the fuckers can hit a deadline. It's tragic.

David's just one guy, though. Trust me, there's no ghostwriting. There's no reason or need for it. It'd serve no purpose.
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Our beloved Dead.Blue.Clown - where is the 'Master of Mankind'? We have nothing to read. At least give us Sevatar to chat with
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Our beloved Dead.Blue.Clown - where is the 'Master of Mankind'? We have nothing to read. At least give us Sevatar to chat with
I've been writing other stuff lately. There's some Sev stuff on the way, but I've not been feeling the Heresy vibe of late, so I wanted to do other things pre-MoM.

But this isn't the thread for such things (I was only trying to defend David's good name above), so I'll bail out here.
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Don't leave us Anyway - thanks for the Sevatar stuff - it is truly hillarious
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I foresee this sitting on my bookshelf for quite some time, unread.
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I agree that it this book has no place in the Heresy series. With a few minor alterations it'd work as a Space Marines Battle novel just fine.

The Iron Hands being caricatures is not exclusive to this book though. There are barely any members of this Chapter/Legion that come to my mind whose character extends beyond "The flesh is weak!".
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I agree that it this book has no place in the Heresy series. With a few minor alterations it'd work as a Space Marines Battle novel just fine.

The Iron Hands being caricatures is not exclusive to this book though. There are barely any members of this Chapter/Legion that come to my mind whose character extends beyond "The flesh is weak!".
Why did it even need to be made?

Apparently it adds 0 to the storyline and just focuses on random space marines fighting dinosaurs. It hurts the integrity of the IP.
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