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post #21 of 38 (permalink) Old 07-10-14, 01:51 AM Thread Starter
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Really? Are you on drugs?

Have you been drinking a lot?

In what Universe Thorpe's prose became better than Dan's correct, stylish, smart, strict, and without errors writing?

Is your second best writer a Nick Kyme?

And 'Fear to Thread' with 'Battle for the Abyss' - are the best HH novels to date for you?

Right?
"Fear to Tread" I am not sure about. What I learned from it was that when possible read the book instead of getting the audio version. I listened to it on a 10 hour road trip and it had some good points but it was hard to concentrate on it while driving and the voices they did from the different char distracted from the storyline. I did like the start of it (when my wife was driving and I could focus more on the book). The Blood Angel's secret and Horus knowing about it. I think that ties in really well in "Betrayer" how Lorgar calls Erebus a fool because he thinks can turn Sanguines (sp, sorry). Lorgar's explanation of how he views his brother perfectly fits into how Sanguines feels, and how the 'curse' effects the Blood Angels.
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Not the point of my post, but ok.

My favorite author is Aaron.

The level of stupid that was "Legion" I am not a good enough writer to put into words. Most of the traitor primarchs had tragic falls. Alpha Legion took the short bus to corruption. I am not an Alpha Legion hater, I liked them in "Deliverance lost". I respect Thorpe because he had the back drop of Dan's brain farts and still managed to make a good book.

It annoys the hell out of me that this "perpetual" thing will end up being part of the final story. I just hope that like in "Deliverance Lost" a better author can take the reigns and not write a story that is as moronic as most of Abnett's crap.

That being said. I will give the man a bit of credit. The one good book he did do was "Horus Rising". It was the first book I read from HH, and Loken is a great char. Kudos to him for coming up with that. I also read "Know no Fear", and while I got sick of his writing - he did have his moments (I liked the Eldar thing).

I have also read "Legion", and I am thinking about suiing him because I want those hours of my life back.

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The Alpha Legion is a good example of BL trying to appeal to different audiences. I think the problem that gets into play is when they combine the stories with other legions and then it just makes the Alpha Legion look ridiculous. I wasn't the biggest fan of the Alpha Legion story, but it is what a lot of people like. As such, I don't like the cold nature of some of the primarch stories, but hey, they are supposed to all be unique and capture different audiences. Betrayer was also a story I had a hard time gulping down. It was a different story arch than I expected, but I wouldn't say I didn't see it coming. As so, I think its best to appreciate the plot and style of the writing instead of not liking on taste. If you do, there will be several legion stories you will probably not like.
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The level of stupid that was "Legion" I am not a good enough writer to put into words. Most of the traitor primarchs had tragic falls. Alpha Legion took the short bus to corruption. I am not an Alpha Legion hater, I liked them in "Deliverance lost". I respect Thorpe because he had the back drop of Dan's brain farts and still managed to make a good book.
LOL...would have to totally disagree. I was lukewarm to Legion upon my first reading. I liked it more upon re-reading, probably because so many bad HH novels had been released during the time before re-reading and after first reading.

Legion doesn't "wank" the AL. Subsequent stories do. Deliverance Lost is just poorly written regardless of the AL's competence level in that novel.
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Not the point of my post, but ok.

It annoys the hell out of me that this "perpetual" thing will end up being part of the final story. I just hope that like in "Deliverance Lost" a better author can take the reigns and not write a story that is as moronic as most of Abnett's crap.
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Gav Thorpe better than Dan Abnett ???
Hang on, I have to say that again, Gav Thorpe better than Dan Abnett ???


Nope, no taste found here.
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That attitude is holding you back from great books like Prospero Burns and Know No Fear. It's very blinkered to let just one book taint the rest of a writers work in a particular series.
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"Prospero burns was horrible", he said in a voice like a wet leopard growl
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"Prospero burns was horrible", he said in a voice like a wet leopard growl
Far from it IMO. Once I reread it and got over the fact that Prospero was only going to burn in the last ten pages I realised its one of the best in the series. It completely turned on its head the long held vision of the SWs being jolly drunken space Vikings.
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Far from it IMO. Once I reread it and got over the fact that Prospero was only going to burn in the last ten pages I realised its one of the best in the series. It completely turned on its head the long held vision of the SWs being jolly drunken space Vikings.
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the first three books, awesome, legion read better sencond time round, thousand sons and Prospero burns, two of the best in the series along with the Lorgar books.
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No no no. Prosporo Burns was awful. Longwinded, patronising, sub plots that went no where and barely touched on prosporo actually burning.
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Far from it IMO. Once I reread it and got over the fact that Prospero was only going to burn in the last ten pages I realised its one of the best in the series. It completely turned on its head the long held vision of the SWs being jolly drunken space Vikings.
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