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post #31 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-29-13, 04:18 PM
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At that particular time? I'll admit to always doubting that it was a situation of mortal danger. I don't know whether it was a test of loyalty or not, but I have a hard time believing that the Emperor didn't know Horus was there.

So yeah, in that sense, I can't imagine that a powerful ork warlord putting his claw around the Emperor's neck equates to arguably the most powerful being in the galaxy being in danger.
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I've never understood the issue with the Emperor's life actually being threatened or in danger. To me the wording doesn't seem to have been deliberately left ambiguous at all, not everything has to be explicitly spelled out. Some people seem to take issue with the fact that the Emperor wasn't actually omnipotent and would have inevitably been in real danger or near-killed during the long years that he was at the forefront of the Great Crusade.
That's a strawman if you're directing it at me. I'm perfectly fine with the Emperor not being invincible. The language of those passages is ambiguous in my opinion.

"struggled to choke the life out of the E" could just mean "trying desperately to choke the life out of the E but failing" or it could mean "actually choking the life out of the E"...I don't know

"buckling the E's armour"...that's even more ambiguous
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That's a strawman if you're directing it at me. I'm perfectly fine with the Emperor not being invincible. The language of those passages is ambiguous in my opinion.

"struggled to choke the life out of the E" could just mean "trying desperately to choke the life out of the E but failing" or it could mean "actually choking the life out of the E"...I don't know

"buckling the E's armour"...that's even more ambiguous
No, it wasn't specifically directed at you. It is something I have come across quite a lot though. You're right in terms of those passages, but personally I wouldn't have thought to look for an alternative explanation - the Emperor fought at the forefront of the Great Crusade and was involved in hundreds (if not thousands) of battles, he would have inevitably been wounded and in grave danger at least a handful of times, and we have a couple of examples of such.

The other example I mentioned (elements of the III Legion sacrificing themselves to allow the wounded Emperor to escape an ambush) isn't so ambiguous either.



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One hour left and I just bought it. Told myself I wouldn't get it... Oh well.

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I bought it, beginning to regret it though. I'm actually fairly sick of Ultramar related stories.
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I bought it, beginning to regret it though. I'm actually fairly sick of Ultramar related stories.
Me too. $175 would be a little over half of the Astro a50 gaming headset I want.

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Really thinking I might re-sell this when I get it. Saw the pictures of the non-limited edition Visions of Heresy the other day on the BL twitter feed. Still comes hardcover with dust jacket but missing leather slip case etc. I actually think these non-limited ed. missing the black leather slip cover will look better on my bookcase with the rest of my hardcover collection. Might even give the limited ed. novellas a miss now and just get them when they rerelease. Horus Heresy Limited Edition prices have entered into that 'silly' domain for me now.

On eBay it goes I guess.

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Any idea on how we're supposed to access "The Wolf of Ash and Fire"?
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This arrive for anyone yet?
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I wouldn't expect mine to arrive until March. I believe they said delivery would be ten weeks after the order was placed.

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