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Just one more month until Angel Exterminatus is released in MM paper back! Can finally rejoin the HH after only 9 months
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Don't bother, save your money, and don't put any more money into McNeil's hands until he starts coming out with A Thousand Sons quality work again.



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I beg to differ. I found Angel Exterminatus a good read. Really fleshes out Peturabo. He is a very conflicted being.
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It also showed something I really wanted to see: destroyed legions from the Dropsite Massacre striking back at the traitors guerrilla warfare style.

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It also showed something I really wanted to see: destroyed legions from the Dropsite Massacre striking back at the traitors guerrilla warfare style.
I tend to agree, this was for me nice to read, i just finished betrayer and read AE after that, in betrayer the UM were kinda punching bags, the loyalists in AE were more interesting, it is not the best book in the series (betrayer was significantly better) but also not the worst after having read fear to tread, deliverance lost... the description of Perturabo and a specific raven guard make the 10 worth spending
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I tend to agree, this was for me nice to read, i just finished betrayer and read AE after that, in betrayer the UM were kinda punching bags, the loyalists in AE were more interesting, it is not the best book in the series (betrayer was significantly better) but also not the worst after having read fear to tread, deliverance lost... the description of Perturabo and a specific raven guard make the 10 worth spending
Yes, not a top tier book. But also not trash as some here is trying to paint it as.
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I beg to differ. I found Angel Exterminatus a good read. Really fleshes out Peturabo. He is a very conflicted being.
This was my overall take too. It wasn't a work of great fiction or anything, but it does give some much needed attention to a traitor primarch and goes a bit into why he chose to turn traitor. Unlike most of the others, he didn't do it because he had been corrupted by Chaos or any sort of high ideals. He wasn't even just someone who enjoyed killing like Angron. So it may not be worthy of any literary awards or anything, but it does justice to painting a somewhat sympathetic narrative for the Iron Warriors.
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Yes, not a top tier book. But also not trash as some here is trying to paint it as.
I agree.

After the The Reflection Crack'd which I abhorred, I enjoyed the development of Fulgrim's cronies and life breathed into Perty and his Legion in Angel Exterminatus. Y'know, in my own bubble of what's-canon-and-what's-not, TRC doesn't exist, or existed as some trick or game elicited from Fulgrim's daemon. The undertones of Fulgrim regaining control of his body before his coercion of Perty and ultimate apotheosis is that daemons are corny and a daemonically-possessed Fulgrim couldn't function in AE's storyline. Which I don't agree with.

Yes, McNeill's prose is delivered on the end of William Wallace's claymore,
yes, there were more continuity nods to Storm of Iron than I'm comfortable with,
and yes, some of the fluff ramifications were not my cup of tea, such as the Heart of Iron,

but I still loved the exposition Perty received and I still believe McNeill can write Iron Warriors well. I've seen hardcore Iron Warriors fans (well, okay, one) dislike the portrayal but then again I saw hardcore Space Wolves fans dislike Prospero Burns which I would put in my top five.

Betrayer was good people, but I could pick my fair share of nits from it if I wanted. But why inflate minor problems to the stage where I'm effectively shitting on a book?
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Betrayer was good people, but I could pick my fair share of nits from it if I wanted. But why inflate minor problems to the stage where I'm effectively shitting on a book?
Very good attitude. Wish more people had it.

I really enjoyed Angel Exterminatus and suggest the same thing I do with every book that gets a divided reception. Try it for yourself and find out where you stand. Just because I liked it doesn't mean you will, or because Vaz hated it that you will as well.


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