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Got Cadian Blood yesterday (already completely fucked up the backcover by removing a sticker). Dis gon b gud mirite?
I love ADB to bits. I think Cadian Blood is the weakest of anything I read by him. Nothing too exciting. The plot or situation isn't all that interesting. The characters are pretty plain and not very fleshed out.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just stamped ADB's name on someone else's work to get it to sell. That's why I bought it :p.
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I love ADB to bits. I think Cadian Blood is the weakest of anything I read by him. Nothing too exciting. The plot or situation isn't all that interesting. The characters are pretty plain and not very fleshed out.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just stamped ADB's name on someone else's work to get it to sell. That's why I bought it :p.
Well, let's be honest. It's an Imperial Guard series book (which are hardly stellar in my experience) and it's only ~350 pages long... aaand it involves a plethora of different characters, units and organisations. But you know what? After being scarred by the IG omnibus during my Black Library infancy, it's pretty solid. The prose is tight, vivid and complements its context nicely; the cast of characters and Cadian culture is brought to life as well as a ~350-page-with-really-big-font-sized book can, and it's likely my favourite Guard-related novel other than the mighty Gaunt's Ghosts, which has the unfair advantage of having A) Abnett B) a humongous space for development and C) Abnett.

ADB's worst book to date? ADB's least-good book to date? ADB's weakest book to date? Semantics can mean a lot. And besides, you're putting this petite French girl against BBW like The First Heretic, The Emperor's Gift and Void Stalker. She isn't going to make it out alive.

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I love ADB to bits. I think Cadian Blood is the weakest of anything I read by him. Nothing too exciting. The plot or situation isn't all that interesting. The characters are pretty plain and not very fleshed out.
I wasn't too impressed by his Crimson Fists short story either. His Flesh Tearers one was great.

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One good thing about DL is that it's made me itching to absorb some outstanding Legio Custodes action again. Y'know, those assassin-trained mini-primarchs. Not the golden police cohorts.
They haven't been faring too well, especially in books like The Outcast Dead in which...
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I've tried to read the 2nd Blood Angels Omnibus - twice. Pushed through the first book of bickering and arguing before losing interest. It's weird, I liked Swallow's other BA work, especially the 'Enter Sanguinius' scene at the start of Fear to Tread. Horus: 'Me and my eight thousand Luna Wolves are the anvil, now look up and behold the hammer.' Epic. Seems theres a lot of hate for that book, but I thought it was great.

For some reason, I never finished either Ravenor or Eisenhorn. For both I'd get about three quarters through the last book of the omnibus, and then I'd just... fail to keep reading lol. Probably more due to real life events than anything.

Deliverance Lost was a hard trek and was a little disappointed that Corax didn't get much of a chance to do... well... anything. The whole time I was hoping there'd be a huge scene at the end of him laying waste to the Emperors Children outpost.... theres like one mention of his whip and thats about it. Sigh. I've steered clear of the more iffy HH books like Outcast Dead and Nemesis, they seem to be pretty widely considered to be weak.

At the moment I'm pushing through The Last Chancers. Picked up a copy ages ago and then it sat on my shelf collecting dust until a mate recommended it to me.
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I've tried to read the 2nd Blood Angels Omnibus - twice. Pushed through the first book of bickering and arguing before losing interest. It's weird, I liked Swallow's other BA work, especially the 'Enter Sanguinius' scene at the start of Fear to Tread. Horus: 'Me and my eight thousand Luna Wolves are the anvil, now look up and behold the hammer.' Epic. Seems theres a lot of hate for that book, but I thought it was great.
The prologue of Fear to Tread was glorious. In actual fact, a big chunk of the novel was stellar in my opinion, the last few hundred pages just dipped into mediocrity and never really surfaced.

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Deliverance Lost was a hard trek and was a little disappointed that Corax didn't get much of a chance to do... well... anything. The whole time I was hoping there'd be a huge scene at the end of him laying waste to the Emperors Children outpost.... theres like one mention of his whip and thats about it. Sigh. I've steered clear of the more iffy HH books like Outcast Dead and Nemesis, they seem to be pretty widely considered to be weak.
Deliverance Lost had a strong start in my opinion, but with 469 pages, I earnestly believe Thorpe could've wrapped up Corax's story perfectly well. The dip-then-rise-then-dip storyline would've been excellent. Y'know, one of those classic self-contained stories fits into the wider events of the Horus Heresy nice n' snugly.

The Shadow Crusade? Sign me up.
Imperium Secundus? Awww yis.
Perty-Fulgrim alliance into the Eye? Yep. I like.

Corax and his monstrosities/Army fodders taking the Perfect Fortress? Sadly not. It will be interesting to see how Corax will reach his moment of despair.
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I love ADB to bits. I think Cadian Blood is the weakest of anything I read by him. Nothing too exciting. The plot or situation isn't all that interesting. The characters are pretty plain and not very fleshed out.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just stamped ADB's name on someone else's work to get it to sell. That's why I bought it :p.
I take it you're not aware that Cadian Blood was actually the first full novel written by ADB for Black Library, then. It was this, Soul Hunter and Helsreach (in that order) before The First Heretic.

If I may speculate, it was probably based solely on Cadian Blood's positive reception that Aaron was invited to join the Heresy team (the other two novels weren't even released when The First Heretic was announced, if I'm not mistaken)

At any rate, it's fairly certain that there is no conspiracy, and Cadian Blood wasn't actually written by someone else, in order to capitalize on his success

EDIT: I agree that every other book by ADB is better than Cadian Blood, but you can't blame him for that. First of all, he was probably constrained by editorial demands on his first book. Secondly, he was just starting, back then. It was probably a difficult stage. Trying to deliver results without taking too many risks. Gauging interest for deeper themes, as opposed to regular bolter porne... You know, the sort of things that plague every new beginning... Since then, he's been very in touch with the fan base, very quick to adapt to feedback, and you have to agree that every improvement is visible.

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The blood ravens omnibus. CS Goto. Enough said.

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take it you're not aware that Cadian Blood was actually the first full novel written by ADB for Black Library, then.
I did not know that. Good to know.
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I gave up on Prospero Burns pretty quickly when I realised it was just going to be my least favourite first founding legion beating up my favourite. I didn't want to be reduced to tears on a daily basis to read a story I'd already read from the perspective of the good guys

edit: Of course, that says nothing about the quality of the book. It could be great for all I know, and there's a good chance I'll get round to reading it eventually

edit 2: Just read the whole thread, it seems my assumption of Prospero Burns was wrong. Maybe I'll give it a go, but it still doesn't change the fact I don't like the Space Wolves

Seeing Legion mentioned I remember almost giving up on it since the first half was a bit slow, but I really got into it in the second half. I had a very long bus journey where I plowed through the beginning but eventually I couldn't put it down. I was intrigued by the Alpha Legion and never came across any good AL fluff like that before

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I'm usually a very fast reader but it took me forever to get trough the Eisenhorn Omnibus. It didn't have anything to do with the way it was written though (I really like Mr. Abnett as an author) but with the fact that I hate the Inquisition with a passion. Everytime the Inquisition shows up in a book I cringe. Hate those people!

Another book turned out to be a pleasant surprise for me. I wasn't interested in the Adeptus Mechanicus at all but bought Mechanicum anyway. I only started reading it after I had finished Prospero Burns because at that time it was the only HH novel I still hadn't read. And boy, I really enjoyed it!

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