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Wow.

This is as good as it gets. With all the lame aspects of the whole 40K mythos; with all the different writers, with different degrees of talent; with all the discrepancies and contradictions between the views of these writers - most 40K books don't rate with the world of literature outside of 40K. They're good or bad compared with each other, but not with the broader world of scifi/fantasy.

And then there's The Talon of Horus. Not merely a great 40K book. Not merely, dare I say, the best 40K book. But an amazing book.

Those who know me would have guessed I'd love it just for the psyker stuff. (Although none of you know me, and those who know me don't know what a psyker is. So nobody would've guessed. lol) ADB's uses of the Art are as varied and inventive as French's in Ahriman: Exile. I didn't know there would be any emphasis on psykers, and hadn't heard of Khayon, until a couple weeks ago. What a joy for me! The subtlety of things like Nefertari! The power of things like the Spear! I also love Khayon's explanations for how this and that aspect of the Eye and warp work. And that's just Khayon! There's also stuff like Sargon and the demon that has the Justaerin.

All incredible.

Psyker stuff aside, it's excellent! The feeling of scope and depth is remarkable. The size of the Eye and the amount of time it takes to travel around. The size of the Vengeful spirit. The amount of time Abaddon's been wandering, and the patience it took. The span of time Khayon talks about to his present-day captors.

Speaking of Khayon's present-day captors, the perspective the story is told from - his present day and situation, alternating with the beginning of the Black Legion - is seamlessly done.

Abaddon himself is better than I'd hoped. I read the first few Horus Heresy books before I knew much about the Horus Heresy or 40K. I was honestly surprised and heartbroken when Abaddon and Aximand went bad. I thought they'd turn back before it was too late. That was my only exposure to Abaddon until now. And here he is, this amazing personality and leader. Wise and patient. And trying to do what he things is, and what just might be, the right thing. Or at least trying to walk the best path he can find.

Where's The Clown? Well done, sir. Well done.
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@Vitarus : I agree with you, one of the best aspects of the book was AD-B/Khayon's take on the warp, gods and the Eye. Absolutely enthralling.

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Abaddon gave a summery of eight of the traitor legions in the eye, mentioning that no one wanted to deal with the fourteenth because of the state of them through Nurgle etc. I just though it was strange that all were mentioned except for one.
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I just finished it as. Totally awesome, well written book. I think I have finally turned to Chaos! As much as I thought it wasn't going to happen, I find myself loving Abaddon whom I do not really care for in HH. It would neat to see if ADB making any connections to his voice being scarred by the emporers angel(?) in VS or when big E saved his life in Wolf of Ash and Fire. I did not notice any changes in his voice.
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Wow.

This is as good as it gets. With all the lame aspects of the whole 40K mythos; with all the different writers, with different degrees of talent; with all the discrepancies and contradictions between the views of these writers - most 40K books don't rate with the world of literature outside of 40K. They're good or bad compared with each other, but not with the broader world of scifi/fantasy.

And then there's The Talon of Horus. Not merely a great 40K book. Not merely, dare I say, the best 40K book. But an amazing book.

Those who know me would have guessed I'd love it just for the psyker stuff. (Although none of you know me, and those who know me don't know what a psyker is. So nobody would've guessed. lol) ADB's uses of the Art are as varied and inventive as French's in Ahriman: Exile. I didn't know there would be any emphasis on psykers, and hadn't heard of Khayon, until a couple weeks ago. What a joy for me! The subtlety of things like Nefertari! The power of things like the Spear! I also love Khayon's explanations for how this and that aspect of the Eye and warp work. And that's just Khayon! There's also stuff like Sargon and the demon that has the Justaerin.

All incredible.

Psyker stuff aside, it's excellent! The feeling of scope and depth is remarkable. The size of the Eye and the amount of time it takes to travel around. The size of the Vengeful spirit. The amount of time Abaddon's been wandering, and the patience it took. The span of time Khayon talks about to his present-day captors.

Speaking of Khayon's present-day captors, the perspective the story is told from - his present day and situation, alternating with the beginning of the Black Legion - is seamlessly done.

Abaddon himself is better than I'd hoped. I read the first few Horus Heresy books before I knew much about the Horus Heresy or 40K. I was honestly surprised and heartbroken when Abaddon and Aximand went bad. I thought they'd turn back before it was too late. That was my only exposure to Abaddon until now. And here he is, this amazing personality and leader. Wise and patient. And trying to do what he things is, and what just might be, the right thing. Or at least trying to walk the best path he can find.

Where's The Clown? Well done, sir. Well done.
Abaddon has a brilliant cameo in ADB first NL-book called Soul Hunter. Recommend you read those books as well.
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I will. I have the first and third books. I haven't read them because I didn't now enough about anything to be able to follow any of it the first time I tried it. But I've read many 40K, and at least a few ADB, books, so they might be next on my list.
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I will. I have the first and third books. I haven't read them because I didn't now enough about anything to be able to follow any of it the first time I tried it. But I've read many 40K, and at least a few ADB, books, so they might be next on my list.
They make really great connections to the Heresy and "present"-day and portay how the 8th Legion is and what it stands for. Yeah do so.
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Is anyone who has the first edition and has read the Wonderworker short story in it willing to divulge spoilers for those of us who didn't manage to get that edition?

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I created an account just to as- I'm wondering if anyone can even confirm the existence of the anthology that came with the Platinum ticket? There were supposed to be only ten ever printed or something similar. Rather surprised one hasn't made to eBay, but I can't even see if they existed outside of the BL ticket website.
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Is anyone who has the first edition and has read the Wonderworker short story in it willing to divulge spoilers for those of us who didn't manage to get that edition?
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One thing I will talk about in full however is The Wonderworker, the story that won't be reprinted. First off, you are not missing anything if you haven't read this story. Yes it is set after the novel and it is set between Book I and Book II, but nothing essential or of real import happens in the story. It is essentially about Khayon collecting something and the Black Legion recruiting a new member.

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Hey you who have read the novel, do we get any close description about the Fenrisian wolf-tutelary/daemon-thingy? Like I'm thinking about modelling one, and is wondering if its like a blue-isch ghost-like appearence?
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