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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-15-13, 12:19 AM
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I felt the exact same way. I got through about 50 to 60 percent of the book and couldn't keep going. The juvenile, one-dimensional, cliched, boring characters, the bland prose...the only compliment I can offer Swallow is that he's not the worst BL authour but he's definitely in the bottom half.

He should be kept far away from the HH (especially the Blood Angels, whom he butchered)
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It was about the 60-70% mark I gave up as well
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So I battled on and finished this today. I'll be honest, part 2 was infinitely better than part 1 by a loooooong way. It was kept at a good pace and brought the various plot lines together. Felt a little forced at times and had some lamentable characters.

In an earlier post I mentioned the Garantine as being a really poorly constructed character and, having finished the book, my opinion remains the same. Awful, by-the-numbers, one dimensional, terrible lines and probably fraps to the 30k version of guns and ammo. I had hoped he would eventually become more than a drug filled John Rambo but he didn't.

The other members of the Execution Force were fleshed out more as the book went on. I think if Swallow had spent more time expanding their backgrounds (as he did in essence with Kell and Soalm) I may have cared a bit more about them.

Somewhat enjoyable.

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So I battled on and finished this today. I'll be honest, part 2 was infinitely better than part 1 by a loooooong way. It was kept at a good pace and brought the various plot lines together. Felt a little forced at times and had some lamentable characters.

In an earlier post I mentioned the Garantine as being a really poorly constructed character and, having finished the book, my opinion remains the same. Awful, by-the-numbers, one dimensional, terrible lines and probably fraps to the 30k version of guns and ammo. I had hoped he would eventually become more than a drug filled John Rambo but he didn't.

The other members of the Execution Force were fleshed out more as the book went on. I think if Swallow had spent more time expanding their backgrounds (as he did in essence with Kell and Soalm) I may have cared a bit more about them.

Somewhat enjoyable.
I actually quite liked the Garantine for that very reason. If you look at the fact he was just a man once, and take what has been done to him with drugs/training it's a different slant on him


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I actually quite liked the Garantine for that very reason. If you look at the fact he was just a man once, and take what has been done to him with drugs/training it's a different slant on him
I agree. The Garantine could have been a really interesting character. A mind and body that has been induced and moulded to kill and kill is a blank page that could have been used to produce a complex and multi faceted character.

Unfortunately Swallow chose to portray him as a one dimensional gun nut with the intellectual capacity of a parsnip.

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Unfortunately Swallow chose to portray him as a one dimensional gun nut with the intellectual capacity of a parsnip.
Sounds like one or twos Sgts I know


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I enjoyed it also

For me the two Dark Angels novels in the HH series are the worst by a long chalk.

I have enjoyed aspects of all the others to varying degrees.
Nailed it. I have or plan to reread every novel in the series but the two dark angel ones. They are the only ones that had no redeaming value what so ever for me.
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I dunno, I think the inevitable Nemeil/Zacharial confrontation has a lot of potential. Oh wait.......
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I dunno, I think the inevitable Nemeil/Zacharial confrontation has a lot of potential. Oh wait.......
I thought that was a good twist by Gav Thorpe. Shakes it up a bit like when we found out Loken was alive.

The Dark Angels books in the series I find to be the worst as Heresy books. I reckon if they took away the Horus Heresy covering and they were released seperate from the series they would be better. They are decent Dark Angels ooks but VERY poor Heresy books.

Back on topic. I found Nemesis to be very Mehhish. I think it was because I was looking for more of a sciency influence. If it was done CSI style where a load of compounds and elements you have never heard of were mentioned as to how they make the poisons etc could have made it very cool. Although the idea of Spear I found to be very cool.


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