Some lies are worth believing in. Do you honestly believe that "all men are created equal?", because the implication of that means you also believe that we are all Einstiens and Micheal Jordans. For the vast Majority of people we will never be the smartest person or the best athlete, but the premise of "all men are created equal" is something to believe in and aspire to.
We are all of equal value, not of equal ability. Just because Einstein can think circles around me where physics are concerned, and Jordan can fly, doesn't mean their lives are worth more than mine is. It doesn't mean I should be sacrificed for them.
If you want to rip it all down to Chaos and lies, you make a valid point. The Emp did lie. But I would rather fight my ass off to preserve the lie than face the 'truth' of chaos. Chaos is Damnation no matter how you cut it.
Genocide on the scale that the Emperor committed (How many planets that had been settled by humans before Old Night and how many Xenos species?) is Damnation. If you blackmail a good man, forcing him to let his throat be cut so that his blood can give a bullet the power to kill a demon, then what are you fighting for? What are you preserving?
What help from Chaos did the Emperor get? Did I miss something in the 1st Heretic or Aurilian?
Yeah, it's in The First Heretic.
Originally Posted by Angel of Blood
Whilst it's becoming more apparent that Emperor likely did use the warp to create the Primarchs, don't go taking what the chaos gods said to Horus and Argel Tal about him using their power as gospel. Never forget the gods are deceitful, insidious and will use any means to corrupt someone. One thing that's always bothered me about Horus and Argel Tal is how readily they accepted their respective visions. Barely any questioning and no doubt, they never once thought or voiced a concern that they might be being lied to.
I thought of that as I was reading it. The thing is, afaik
, it's never been contradicted. Not by anyone, anywhere. No hint of a contradiction. The Word Bearers have been yelling that the Emperor lied to everyone, and nobody said, "No he didn't." Why not? There's been a lot of time and a lot of Primarchs and powerful psykers, but nobody thinks that lie Chaos told needs to be exposed.