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Default Betrayer. Best novel of the HH series? Very likely.

Just finished it, and frankly I'm almost speechless. I'm going to have to read through a lot of sections of it again and properly digest it before I can make any sort of proper review/summary/comparison. But fuck me it's outstanding.

Easily equal of my beloved Legion, or the likes of Prospero Burns and Know No Fear, and a part of me is wanting to say it's better.

ADB at his very best. Once again a truly outstanding piece of work.

Though one major spoiler from almost the end of the novel that was really quite shocking.



Again, need some time to digest and talk about the massive fluff and discussions that will spawn from this.
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I am ashamed to say I clicked on the button and revealed to myself the spoiler without reading the book. I only read the first sentence though. Is there other stuff that will leave me breathless? And is it worth the 30$ to get it as early as possible?

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It was awesome. So much stuff being revealed that it almost matched KNF in the amount of holy shit moments.

Here be spoilers.



There is probably other awesome things, but I cant remember them from the top of my mind.

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The book was quite good. One of the top 5 HH books.

But the best moment in the book was
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Loved the book immensely.

Best moment for me was when Kharn asks what happened.
"The Ultramarines happened"
"They're still happening, in case you missed it"

My only hope is that
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The book was quite good. One of the top 5 HH books.

But the best moment in the book was
Not quite so clear cut as you make it sound though



Some of my favourite parts that I had bookmarked down.

1.
When Vel-Kheredar(main tech-priest) and Captain Lotara(human captain of the Conqueror were discussing the team of techs Kharn had ordered to find all the mica dragon teeth to repair Gorechild, had to be pulled out early without having found them all.
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"I am given to understand Centurion Kharn improvised"
She could easily imagine just how Kharn had improvised, no doubt taking a hammer to the skulls of the mica dragons in the Legions Museum of Conquest, and stealing the teeth for use in the weapons resurrection. She was willing to wager a year's pay that was what he'd done"
Something about Kharns improvisation made me laugh quite a bit.

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Again from Vel-Kheredar taling to Lotara.
Quote:
Captain Lotara Satin punched a fist into her open palm. 'The things you learn,' she smiled, 'with a little curiosity'
Vel-Kheredar click-ticked in amused disapproval. 'There is an ancient Terran proverb regarding curiosity, flag-captain. It involves felines and murder, thus I confess it makes little sense to me'
Do love it when novels make reference to things from our time. It's also followed up in her reply with a famous quote from Socrates, though attributed to a Thousand Son in this case.
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'I have a better one: "The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance'
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4.
Liked the reference to Achilles and Goliath as well, yet again another nod to our own history/legends.

5.
How cold did Lorgar sound when Angron asked him what had happened to his astropathic choir.
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"How did they die"
"Screaming." Lorgar showed no emotion at all.
Something about his calm dismissal of the deaths.

So many more amazing parts of the book that stood out.
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Ouh, I agree with all the points you made. I was not a fan of the Ultramarines before KNF, but after that book I have not been able to trash the idea of a HH era Ultramarines army.

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Edit: Nevermind, no one bothered to reply to my thread.

I really liked it, a lot of depths, although there's some issues that I could pick at but won't as overall it was a great book. I just wish ADB would write a loyalist legion.

I actually liked when Angron lectured Roboute about what real courage and honour is and points out he'll never know it because of the way he was brought up. Angron put it a lot better than that though.

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You sons of bitches with your spoiler tags... must.... resist...

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Just finished it... AWESOME.



Although I am usually a fan of spoilers, this book is worth it to read without spoiling anything for yourself.

The only thing I didn't care for was
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