I don't get it, I admit I'm on the outside looking in here since I don't play fantasy, I have some Brets and Lizardmen, but it just seems like they are changing a heck of a lot, End Times was one thing, it was a conclusion to a story, but this? I just don't get it at all.
It wasn't the end of a story. Sure it was an ending for many, but for the survivors it was simply the beginning of a new chapter. They now live in a strange new world where the heroes of the Old World now stand side by side with their gods and the races are reformed under new belief systems.
Imagine a game that you have loved and grown up with. Say Spyro, or acrash Bandicoot or Sonic, and they announce they are doing a reboot for next gen.
Only instead of a platform treasure hunter puzzler game witha cute little dragon, bandicoot or blue hedgehog, you get a Gears of War clone. Now, while Gears of War may sound fun and attractive, those people who actually care about the game and supported it and likely bought into it because of its name are horrified that the game they have grown to love and read into its background is completely gone, and shares characters like some cross genre slash gay porn story sharing names only because it puts across a sense of false validity.
So yeah, this basically happened. I bought Dragon Age: Origins. I loved it, I played through it several times. I bought the DLC. I bought a LE Strategy Guide for the extra background info. I bought the prequel novels to better understand central characters.
Then I bought Dragon Age 2. It was a different game with a different game engine, different characters in a place that the first game had never even mentioned and yeah, it wasn't as good. Did I bitch and whine about how hard done by I was though? No, I enjoyed the game on it's own merits.
It is seriously fucking shit. While in the past people got ratty about rules changes and things getting nerfed, you now have people alienated over an entire fucking games system. Maybe you werent around when Epic and Necromunda were removed. I took some Battlefield Gothic models into a store a few months ago, and got told to basically fuck off by a staff member because they weren't warhammer or 40k.
You mean when people stopped playing so they made the rules free to download and kept the models for sale for years afterwards?
Can you seriously say with a straight face that you were told to 'Fuck Off'? Or were you told that because the system isn't supported any more that they're not allowed to dedicate store game space towards it?
LotR got canned because it wasn't propely supported, but the actual rules? They were pretty fucking awesome for a skirmish game. This? It won't be supported, and is trying to grab peoples attention seemingly from other skirmish games.
No evidence here. I would expect it to be supported about as much as Fantasy previously was. We'll see.
While big huge armies were offputting for some people to collect, it should have been rectified in other ways than canning an entire fucking game system and background, and then as is seemingly happening, telling long term players who have spent ages playing and xollecting that their money and time isn't worth shit because they're boarding the hype train.
We don't know that the system has been canned. Many rumours have stated that 9th will have similar large scale games to previous editions. You're simply choosing to listen to whatever will piss you off and nothing else.
While I've been critical of GW and its business practises, this time, i'm going to be insulting to the people who have designed it, and label them as absolute cunts, and will proceed to boycott fantasy.
That'll show 'em. Calling people cunts always makes you right too.
imagine seeing your entire Raven Guard army invalidated, becaue GW talk a marker pen to the games setting and in 8th edition 40k said that space marines following the Horus heresy were all killed and no longer exist. Oh, and Eldar got beat by slaanesh, so now ally with Daemons freely, orks are the embodiment of the Tau greater good and their method of battle is now peace mantras unil the enemy fall asleep, and the imperial guard all get eaten by tyranids, leaving tyranids as the prime rulers of the galaxy, only they got bored and moved on.
Then I'd leave my Raven Guard on the shelves they spend their time on anyway, still having already enjoyed the time spent assembling and painting them. Wait for the new models for this new setting to come out, see which I like most and collect some of them instead.
I'll go through the End Times books andd i'll,show you exactly why we're devastated th a t those stuffed shirt accuntants no that is not a typo have fucked up this game so badly.
You'll show me why you, a single person among however many thousand Fantasy players there are don't like the story. All just opinion and again, calling people cunts (albeit with so much more wit this time) doesn't make you right.
a lot of fantasy players see their armies becoming invalidated and obsolete. and thats just one point.
You see you army being made invalid based on rumours. While at the same time many other rumours (I'd say more) are saying that nothing will be invalidated. Why do you choose to believe the negative over the positive? Or at least suspend judgement until you have facts.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with a new game and setting, but they didn't have to delete the old one to do it.
But they did, because they couldn't support both. This could be a real Hail Mary on GW's side. Fantasy was failing. I don't have figures but that seems to be the consensus. In time then I would assume that unchecked it would drag the whole company down. So it had to go. The choice then is whether to try something new or just leave it. If you're a fantasy fan, aren't you happy they're taking the risk?