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As Skaven, you can instantly win if you roll a 13 with a 2d6 and a Screaming Bell present. I can't wait for some "splatbook" to allow you to roll with a +1 and some other way to guarantee it.

I was getting intrigued into playing the game as I picked up the "Ravening Skirmishers" until I realised I was reading some rules that came from some drunk guys playing D&D. If those are what you're going to be paying for, enjoy guys. Meanwhile I'll sit here with my old models and wait for it to fail. After all, I can now begin to come up with a much better fixed 8th edition ruleset now that GW have shit the bed and screwed the pooch.

I was amused at first reading Vampires, when I realised the "abuses" that could come from Mannfred being played in the evening as opposed to a night battle, and then as it became more and more apparent that it wasn't an abuse, it was a legitimate thing.

And if GW are actually a miniatures company, why the fuck are they producing rules still? Stick with your guns and remove the rules.



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As Skaven, you can instantly win if you roll a 13 with a 2d6 and a Screaming Bell present. I can't wait for some "splatbook" to allow you to roll with a +1 and some other way to guarantee it.

I was getting intrigued into playing the game as I picked up the "Ravening Skirmishers" until I realised I was reading some rules that came from some drunk guys playing D&D. If those are what you're going to be paying for, enjoy guys. Meanwhile I'll sit here with my old models and wait for it to fail. After all, I can now begin to come up with a much better fixed 8th edition ruleset now that GW have shit the bed and screwed the pooch.

I was amused at first reading Vampires, when I realised the "abuses" that could come from Mannfred being played in the evening as opposed to a night battle, and then as it became more and more apparent that it wasn't an abuse, it was a legitimate thing.

And if GW are actually a miniatures company, why the fuck are they producing rules still? Stick with your guns and remove the rules.

Vaz, cheer the fudge up or quit whining like a whipped assed pussy. It's getting dull, and that's the whole point of this change is to make things FUN. Games are made to be FUN.
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I can't be arsed making a long reply, so you'll have to settle for this.

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Gunna leave it here as I can see there's no reasoning with you.

For everyone else, of your unsure like I was just give it a go and you'll realise it's really good fun.
And if it's not for you, keep playing 8th and don't shit on everyone else's party just because it's not to your liking.
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For everyone else, of your unsure like I was just give it a go and you'll realise it's really good fun.
And if it's not for you, keep playing 8th and don't shit on everyone else's party just because it's not to your liking.
It's a forum, it's a place to express ideas. If other people's ideas don't match up with yours, that's fine, and it's fine to debate it with them, but Vaz' viewpoint (and mine, which is in the same direction but far less strongly) is equally as valid as yours. Don't like it, suck it up.

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I got to have a quick look at the box on Saturday. The models are great and the book looked like it would be a good read. Looking forward to being able to get my hands on it properly.

Now though I have a dilemma. My instinct as a self-identified Elf-phile is to wait for new Aelf models.

But the Stormcast Eternals are sooo cool. And just as Space Marines have trumped Eldar for me in 40k, these guys really have the potential to do doing the same here.

Although of course if I start on one I can always get the other later and form a badass alliance of Men and Elves because, why not? The rules as I have seen are designed for me to be able to take whatever I want. Who can say that's a bad thing?
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Although of course if I start on one I can always get the other later and form a badass alliance of Men and Elves because, why not? The rules as I have seen are designed for me to be able to take whatever I want. Who can say that's a bad thing?
Indeed. I forsee my Stormcast Eternals having a unit of Ironbreakers and Slayers along with then, and an Elf Prince on a Dragon or Griffon and perhaps a Mage.


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I am a big fan of the direction Warcraft's fluff took once they went off to do WoW, and the stormcast Eternals remind me a LOT of the humans that stood up to the undead in the plaguelands. I'd love to do a sturdy alliance of dwarf's elves and eternals.
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Vaz, cheer the fudge up or quit whining like a whipped assed pussy. It's getting dull, and that's the whole point of this change is to make things FUN. Games are made to be FUN.
I'm with Vaz and others as well. This is the worst shit I've ever seen come from GW. Were you not having fun before? There's having fun, then there's turning the game into the most ridiculous bullshit in the world. Get re-rolls if you fucking dance? More if you coerce your opponent to joining in? Re-rolls for holding up a grail and spouting "for the lady"? What's next, instant win if you have a fedora on?

Fuck this game.
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I read somewhere earlier that the silly rules are a temporary inclusion, as some sort of tribute to the old edition.
Personally, as someone who was casually interested in WHFB, but was put off by the investment and complexity, this is right up my alley. For now.
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