I read somewhere some Chaos legions have huge massive gladiator events and the winners are inducted into the chaos legions. So for a small portion of chaos marines the 10K years experiance counts, but only for certain CSM, like Abbadon, Kharn, Lucius, Fabius, Typhus..etc. And they were originals, further supporting my cause of the originals being tougher. Yes they have some chaos infused powers..but they were noteworthy even before becomming CSM's.
To the comment about every CSM is from Pre. I think many are, but in Storm of Iron the main char..Honso?(I forgot his name) but he had the geneseed of a Imperial Fist, they referred to him as a half breed. So not all are from the HH.
Last edited by Commissar Schultz; 02-25-11 at 01:52 AM.