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They're fast, heavily armed and neigh impossible to shoot down. Whether it's Falcons with their holofields, or Wave Serpents with their force fields, or those menacing fire prisms, eldar skimmers are something that elicit groans whenever they hit the table...and lobbing railgun slugs just ain't going to cut it this time.

So how do you deal with the Jetsons tank of doom?

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People usually beat my Fire Prism by shaking it every turn so I often end up tank shocking and exposing my rear armour of 10, even bolters will break through that, and yet I never learn . Or you could just hope for a lucky shot .

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mass fire power i believe is the best way but if you can get some terminators to deep strike in the rear armor your sorted, but considering skimmers are fast manoverable you will hardly get the rear armor unless you have a skimmer too or bikes

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assault marines with melta bombs? as they are alowed to deepstrike posably with a dreadnought for suport(comes in drop pod), ive never actualy played eldar in a high enough point game for them to use tanks/ skimmers just a vibro cannon which seemed to do alot of damage lol

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Eldar skimmers are something that elicit groans whenever they hit the table...
Man its all too true... I have decided to play less skimmers just because they arise the now popular phrase "I F****** hate the Eldar...". Anyway, lots of fire can at least shake the skimmers, in the case of the Fireprism thats all you need. But, the strength of the Falcons and Waveserpents are the fact that they can transport and protect units (thats all they are good for really). Everyone fears a squad of Firedragons or Harlequin coming at them when there is no way to stop it Although the lucky roles do come up and when they do, there is a mass load of points down the drain. But that doesnt happen all that often making any of the eldar skimmers well worth the buy.

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Daemon, meltabombs will be hard because it's 6+ to hit a moving skimmer in assault, and even then it's not penetration that's the problem.

The problem is even if you have a half dozen lascannons, it's neigh impossible to shoot them down. Best you can do is shake them up a little, thanks to all their defensive systems. (Holo-field means when rolling for penetration you roll twice and pick the lowest, spirit stones convert stunned to shaken, vectored thrusters mean an immobilization doesn't kill them if they're moving fast...and of course, skimmers moving fast means you can only ever glance them)

Something I want to try with my orks is the Grabbin Klaw. It's a vehicle upgrade that lets me pull up alongside another vehicle and keep it from moving for a turn. I might put one on the wagon full of tankbustas...though slapping them on cheap, expendable trukks might be good too

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Well since you mentoned Railguns i take it your using Tau. If thats the case i would say your in a good position to stop Eldar skimmers.

First of all, take Piranhas and close off the back doors, then hit them with as many deathrains has you can get you hands on. All those S7 shots kick in sooner or later and if the tank cant shoot and the troops cant get out, it's one useless taxi! lol

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Actually, Marz, the 'versus' threads are for everyone to discuss their methods of taking down the given target (check out the rules and ideas sticky), I mentioned railguns because there's been a rash of "Well, if you're playing Tau just shoot it with railguns til it goes away." solutions. Valid, perhaps, but not exciting to hear for the 5th time in a row.

Good advice though, and fresh. Good to see the piranhas come out.

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Are we talking about Eldar doing the JSJ thing too? That changes the tactic a bit if they do that

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Autocannons... first turn shots, first turn indirect fire (damn you IG)

Railguns, seems like a bit of a waste, but will keep them shaken
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