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Chaos Daemons, Pink Horrors?

Okay so i bought some pink horrors, threw them at some plague marines, and to my surprise i only dropped one guy with 30 shots. I figure that they aren't supposed to be thrown at plague marines, but what should i throw them at(figuratively speaking of course)? what gives me the most bang for my buck is what im saying i guess.
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Pink Horrors are fantastic, their 4+ invulnerable save makes them surprisingly resilant. I use them in units of 9, dropping them down fairly close to the enemy. They work best against things like Nid's etc, they can even throw the occasional wound on their MC's. They work against Nid's because really the only way they have to remove them is close assault which leaves them open to the counter charge. Against everything else they give you volume of shots which should be enough to get some results.

Plague Marines are probably their worst target, on average a unit of 9 will do 0.75 wounds, weak. Their main use is annoyance, blazing away widely and drawing fire from the rest of your army as you close to assault.

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Best targets: IG troops, most eldar and Tau fire warriors/auxillaries, smaller Tyranid bugs. Anything with a 4+ or worse save, and lowish toughness. That will usually net you a kill per horror, which isn't too shabby.

Ok targets: Power armoured guys, (especially with T4) anyone with a cover save. Usually it'll get you about a kill per 4 horrors vs. power armour, kill per 2 horrors against a 4+ cover save. getting a little shabby, 4 horrors to kill a marine per turn. Still, if you're firing for a few turns, that can really cut into enemies.

Worst targets: Things with FNP, 2+ armour saves, or high T and good armour. Marine bikers, terminators, plague marines, larger Nid bugs. Don't even bother shooting at Nob Bikers.

So, work on taking out your best targets. Against marines, a herald can help, the AP3 makes all the difference. Against Plague marines, there are better things to take them out with, because they'll laugh off warpfire most of the time.

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Pretty much what Maddermax said. Things like nids, orks and guard troops work best. They're most effective against light-medium level infantry. That unit of 9 which kills 0.75 plague marines will shoot down 9 gaunts or 6.75 orks.

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One thing to remember is they're not going to be amazingly devastating, what they are is hard to shift, annoying units that your opponent has to deal with because they're troops. Use them to harass and harry your enemy, they're awful in close combat so your opponent might try charging them which is what you want, then you can counter charge.

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They have S4 AP4 shooting.. which means they work best against people with a 4+ save and T3-4. If you have 2+ 3+ or FNP enemies then horrors arent going to do much against them, but thats what flamers are for (unit of 3 flamers DSs close to plaguemarines in the open then the CSM player will be lucky to have a couple left standing).

Best target for horrors are most eldar infantry, ard boyz (gotta thank ork players that spend poitns for no extra protection from your shooting) and fire warriors. If you have given a horror bolt of tzeentch then nids in general and raveners/warriors in particular become supurb targets.

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Maddermax pretty much nailed it. Plague Marines aren't a great target for Horrors. Go after softer infantry instead if any exist.
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Okay guys, Thank you so much, this does help out alot
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what was said above about them being very annoying but also being troops is their greatest strength. the 4+ invulnerable does make them very survivable, and I've actually used my horrors in close combat lately (against tau my squad of horrors assaulted 3 times and they were great for swamping dreadnoughts too).

I think the best way to look at them is as a support unit. They can do many things but should also be seen as expendable, you can whittle down units, kill horde, swamp MCs or walkers, capture objectives in conjunction with PBs, and so on. Just don't rely on them to be solely responsible for any of these tasks.

In my army I find they work very well for adding redundancy and providing more targets to the opponent so your nastier more specialized units live to do their job.

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Everyone's saying they are surviveable, they aren't really. Once there in combat, they crumble. Quite quickly actually.

On the turn they first come down, they are in a blast marker formation. If they don't waste a turn shooting, its easy to wipe out half the unit with one shot.
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