anarchy, i dont agree with you at all. sending a squad out without a fist is like sending them out without a rhino -
then krak nades need another 6 to glance. its just not going to happen. tactical means just that. they should be able to do a little bit of everything.
if i see a unit without a fist then im going to destroy it with something that you cant hurt easily. dont even get me started on MC or the like... you would suck sooo hard without a fist that by not spending the 25 points for a fist would be like wasting that whole squad coz u were too tight to equip them properly. you may even get a job with the british MOD!
First, it was just a counter arguement, don't worry I wasn't "telling how it is".
Also I wouldn't sent or let my tact squads near a dread, thats what anti armour units are for.
Tact units are for taking objectives, support is for clearing the area so they can do that, the big guns have long range for a reason. Thats what marines are all about, synergy.
Also you hit tanks auto unless they move, then your just hitting on 4+ auto, the most you want to do is immobalise, its the troops inside you want to worry about.
Also they way I see it, tact units already can do everying,your unbalenceing them by adding a fist, something which a las cannon shooting out the back of a rhino or a predator can do a lot more effectivly.
And Katie, I know you play demons and chaos, normal marines can't take hvy or special until they reach 10 men.
Also lastly, i have won plenty of matchs and I have never used fists, I always take the view, the right weapon for the right job not the random weapon for the unknown job.