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hey guys

next weekend me an 3 of my mates are having a torny
and we each have to play each other once
3 points for win
2 points for draw
1 point for loss

an my opponents will be dark eldar, eldar, and tau


now i have to play same list against all three

now im gonna put down all what ive got
can someone help me with a list

Ork Warlord GHAZGHKULL THRAKA
Ork Big Mek with Boss pole
Ork in Mega Armour
Ork Kaptin Badrukk
6 Kommandos inc big shoota
Ork Truck
Ork Boss Snikrot
5 Ork Stormboyz
5 Ork Burnaboyz
5 Ork Lootas
13 Gretchin with Runtherder
3 Ork Warboss (big choppa x1, power klaw x2)
6 Tank Bustas with 2 bomb squigs
17 Nobs
around 80 boyz


now its 1500 point battles

dnt have to do a list for me just give me ideas

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Advice for both eldars, flood the table with Boyz. Dark Eldar will be able to kill off a fair few, but at the end of it, The sheer weight of boys will be a game winner.

His Archon will probably try and fight GHAZGHKULL, but you must not let this happen. His 2+ inv save will see your Str 10 hits count for nothing while he slowly chips away at your wounds.

Tau are a different kettle of fish. You NEED trukks for them. Pulse Rifles will shoot you up a treat, and more than likely he will be just as mobile as the Eldars.

general tip.

You WILL be the slowest in this Tourney. So get more guns AND more muscle on the table. Counter their speed advantage with volume.

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Whew, ok. You are going to have some fun.

First, take every single boy you have and put them on the field. Either in 2*30boy squads and 1*20 boy squad, or in 4*20boy squads (the first would be best, but I don't know your playstyle).

For HQ, I would go with either of the following options:
Double Warboss w/ BC or PK (both will be causing instant death on the Eldar, PK could be useful if you miraculously managed to actually catch an Eldar tank). This is likely the best.
Ghazz in the Trukk w/ some Nobz. The only problem with this is that you will need to have a golden horseshoe up your a** to keep that Trukk alive more than a turn.

Tankbusta's would be good for trying to take out thier vechiles, which could really slow down the armies.

Use the Gretchin as a meat shield.

Your list would ideally look like one massive green tide running across the table.

But it will be tricky, since all three armies will likely be able to run circles around you.

I would advocate that future purchases on your part would be trukks or battlewagons to give you a speed advantage that can counter fast armies. You can slaughter tham in cc, but it is all for naught if you can't catch them.

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oh an i have 3 deffkoptas

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an i may be able to purchase some stuff
this week

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Use all your boyz, snikrot, the deffkoptas, and all your kommandos, do not use the trukk (you've only got 1 so it's going to die before it can do anything), and fill out the rest of your list based on a footslogging horde-type army.

If your friends have competetive lists, you're probably a little screwed. I look at what you have and really only the boyz, warbosses, nobs, deffkoptas, kommandos, and gretchin can be fielded in enough numbers to matter, and barely that for the gretchin and kommandos. 5-man squads of stormboyz, burnas, lootas, and a 6-man squad of tankbustas are all too small to deal with taking any kind of hits. Any of those squads that loses 2 of its members with 6+ armor saves has an almost even chance of breaking.

Avoid taking anything in mega armour since you can't really field an effective transport option and they'll just slow your mobs down. Dark eldar, eldar, and tau all have decent ranged firepower that should be able to knock that trukk out with a minimum of effort. Taking the lootas would be a gamble but could still be worthwhile. Make sure to take nobs with power klaws in the boyz mobs.

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Usually when fighting fast moving armies like tau, eldar or dark eldar I like to use lots of boyz and long range fire power. You are definately going to be fighting an uphill battle.

I would go with the max boyz and try to flood them with boyz and pin them on their end of the board. I would forget the deffkoptas because like your lone trukk I really think they would get killed very quickly. I think the lootas could provide a small amount of fire power for you to bring down crisis suits and devil fish or raiders. Snikrot and the kommandos will probably be your best deep threat to these armies. I would put two burnas in the squad of kommandos to take out any tanks or act as flamers when assualting troops.

Maybe trow in the grots to catch some bullets meant for the boyz. Everything else is really to small to be taken for any serious damage or ability.

Anyway good luck with your tourney, hope things go good for the boyz.


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Using the Lootas could be a good choice but maybe proxy some of your other units so you have a larger volume of them. Strength 7 AP 4 and they can have 3 shots. That will destroy aspect warriors, fire warriors and the transports they come in on!
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hey guys i won :D:D:D:D:D:D

table was lik this

Orks : 8 points
Tau: 6 points
D.eldar: 4 points
Eldar: 4 points



This was the list i played

HQ

Ghazghkull Thraka : 225

Big mek : KFF: 85

Elites

Lootas: 5, mek 75

Kommandos : 6, big shoota,nob,powerklaw,eavy armor 105

Burna boyz: 5 75

Transport:
Trukk: wrecking ball,Armor plates 55

Troops

Boyz: 30,Nobs, Power klaw,boss pole 220

Shoota Boyz: 25, nob, power klaw, bosspole 190

Boyz : 25, Nob, Power Klaw, bosspole 190

Gretchin, 13, runtherder 49

Fast Attack:

StormBoyz: 5, Nob,Bosspole 75

Deffkoptas: 3 rokkit launcher, 135

Heavy Support

Flash Gitz: 5 More Dakka,shootier,blastas 200

total: 1679

i was abit over lol but so was every1 else so we thought 4get it we all had around 1700 points

the tau an eldar players made 1 big mistake they all concentrated fire on thraka
while rest of units pounced on them
i no everyone say they are expensive but my flash gitz performed very well
they took out an avatar, farseer, waver serpents in eldar game
not much in tau game they got killed early
an them pirate ship transport things for d eldar raiders i think

well alls good thx for advice guys

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