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BING ! Ain't that the truth. I was looking at some kroot to be a cheap way around it but they are too scruffy for my army.
Not just scruffy, but Fire Warriors are still 1+ compulsory according to the codex. Even if you wanted kroot you'd still have to buy FW.

Still, a tooled up Warfish is a useful light tank asset, and dropping a unit of FW to rapid-fire 24 S5 shots at 18" into the enemy from behind it is a useful tactic (just be sure to use nothing but kneeling legs and a nice tall stem for your flight base)

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Oh ok, I don't actually have the Codex so I'm just guessing off Army builder.

Can fire warriors have marker lights? That would make them a bit more attractive as forward observers.
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the team leader can have one, but they only benefit other tau units

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It really depends on what army you are allying. If you ally guard, like me, by all means take 3 vendettas and 3 LRs. On the other hand if you aren't allying in an overpowered army, I feel 1/4 of your army max should be ally.

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Magpie_oz: fire warrior sergeants can have markerlights, however they fire at BS3 so its not terribly effective.

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Fun fact for all of you talking about how you're going to max this or that, 3 vendettas or 3 land raiders for your allies or whatever.

Go to page 109 and count the choices per slot for an allied detachment.

I'll give you a moment to dry your tears.

Unfortunately what you see is true. Only one choice for every slot, except troops, in which you can take two choices. So if you wanted to take one land raider or one vendetta for allies, go for it. Fortunately for players who like to play games that aren't broken, allies won't let you spam all the UBER JAWESOME units in another codex.

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Go open the IG codex, Angel.
LR in this conext clearly stands for Leman Russ.

Russes and Valkyries come in SQUADRONS of 1-3 per FOC slot.

So yes, you can take 3 Vendetta Valks and 3 Russes in your allied detachment.
IG are masters of squeezing the most out of your FOC slots

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I don't have an IG codex unfortunately.

3 Leman Russes in one slot. Wow. I did not actually know that.

On another note, thats absolutely insane.

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In theory an IG allied detachment could have a Company Command Squad with a chimera and up to ten models (commander, 4 troopers and up to 5 advisors) for an HQ
5 priests, 2 techpriests that don;t take any slots
Say, 10 Stormies in a chimera for an elite choice
a pair of Infantry Platoons for trools...EACH troop slot contains a max of...
-1 5-man Platoon Command squad with a chimera
-5 10-man Infantry squads in chimeras
-5 heavy weapon squads (each with 3 heavy weapon teams (2 men each))
-2 6-man special weapon squads
-1 50-man consript platoon
That's per troop choice with 2 possible slots to fill.
A 3-strong Vendetta Gunship squad for Fast Attack
and a 3-strong Leman Russ squad or Artillery Tank battery

so, in theory, a single IG allied detachment could include up to...321 infantry models and 20 tanks (or 17 tanks and 3 fliers, though if you want tanks you could take a 3-strong Hellhound squad instead of the valks)

Sure, it's a mind-boggling amount of points but, yeah...I see IG being everyone's favorite allies just for sheer variety

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Long term goal is a little army of each codex so I am shooting for 5-700ish points wise. That way I can field 1500ish armies or whatever.

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