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Even worse than the Carnifex, the hive Tyrant is bigger, nastier and has more options...and usually they come with wings.

There's a lot of different configurations, so let's hear your most dreaded and how to take that mother down.

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Line up the lascannons and plasma guns and unload all you got! The key is to focus your best ap firepower.
Hopefully there are not too many body guards with the tyrant, but thankfully they are pretty slow moving on foot so you should get a couple of turns of shooting. Of course this may change in the 5th with this new running rule!
Also I once managed to beat a winged tyrant in hand to hand with a chaos dreadnaught with extra close combat arm, but wouldn't want to gurantee that one every game!
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Actually, the tyrant is smaller, and has fewer options than the Carnifex. It still is nastier though.

The most dangerous tyrant build in my mind for 4th edition would be the dakka flyrant. Pumping out 12 reroll-to-hit-and-wound shots right before assaulting with a higher initiative than you is enough to wipe out most squads.

The best way to combat a tyrant is shooting it with AP2 weapons. It has difficult if any invulnerable saves (6+? please...).

The difficult part is catching it out in the open. A flying tyrant's mobility is its deadliest weapon. It can lurk behind aread terrain and wait for a chance to strike.

Squad support is very important as you're unlikely to have one squad that can absorb its charge, especially if its tricky and limits its kill zone on the charge. Have a counter charge squad ready and keep those hidden powerfists handy.

The tyrant is going to take a hit in 5th edition though as true line of sight, counter charge moves and running (which makes the walking, 3 guard tyrant look more attractive) take effect.
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This is not a comment about you Slaaneshy, because everyone seems to do it, but one day someone will make a comment on a 'VS' thread that does not include 'BLAST IT WITH LAS CANNONS!'. Lets take it as read that a Las Cannon or sniper will take out anything in 40k if you shoot it enough times.

Lets be creative.

Tell me more about the chaos dred configuration for example - what was it that allowed you to own the tyrant with it? How did you get it close enough to assault, because dreds are slow and tyrants can be fast?
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Musta been a super lucky dread. A tyrant would strike before you with 3 or more attacks, each adding extra an dice to penetrate.
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This is not a comment about you Slaaneshy, because everyone seems to do it, but one day someone will make a comment on a 'VS' thread that does not include 'BLAST IT WITH LAS CANNONS!'. Lets take it as read that a Las Cannon or sniper will take out anything in 40k if you shoot it enough times.

Lets be creative.

Tell me more about the chaos dred configuration for example - what was it that allowed you to own the tyrant with it? How did you get it close enough to assault, because dreds are slow and tyrants can be fast?
guess you don't like the "I waste him with my crossbow" types
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Against a hive tyrant, I would employ weapons like autocannons, that have a fair mix of high strength and rate of fire. i would nor worry about it's armor save, as if you cause enough wounds, some will eventually stick. As an alternate, you can focus fire on the less gribbly synapse creatures, and then break the smaller nids. A tyrant by itself is much less scary than a tyrant with other bugs with it.
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yes and for u i will not say las cannons but heavys will be important id say heavy bolters to balst a path to it and then get ogryns or something that takes lots of damage or a few squads they have to break through to get to your men with poer fists that fight the tyrrant


Aka anything to keep whoever is attacking u away from your powerfists except the tyrrant
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the last tyrant i killed was a flyrant with scything talons. i deepstriked a squad of 6 chaos terminators sporting combi-plamsa as our very own Katie Drake has subjested thousands of times. they landed 6" from it and unloaded thier many many str7 ap 2 shots into the beast felling it with wounds to spare.

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i would say go balls out and charge it with a dude with a force weapon. Go big or go home after all.
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