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Plus FNP, while a worse roll (5+ over 4+) now applies to almost everything.

The ONLY thing he has to fear are Force Weapons, and even then most Force Weapons are AP3 or worse. There's nothing on earth strong enough to inflict ID just by S vs T, and now he can go back to laughing off Perils, Meltaguns and railgun slugs to the face.

Just keep him away from the damned GKs, and Slaaneshi chaos lords.

Mephy is a monster. And thanks to the challenge rules, his Gaze might actually come into play now and then.

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Even cersus GK he should be good - they have no ap2 cc weapons at the minute. Of course, 839275 rending s7 assault cannons cannot help.



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Even cersus GK he should be good - they have no ap2 cc weapons at the minute. Of course, 839275 rending s7 assault cannons cannot help.
Daemon Hammers? or are they unusual force weapons?

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Unusual Force Weapons currently, unless it has since been changed. He still has to be slightly wary of characters like Lelith. No ignoring armour saves is a good thing, she has 7 attacks basic, 8 on the charg. Admittedly, wounding on 6s but she can get enough of those with 7 a turn.

Then again he needs to cause only one unsaved wound and she is instagibbed, and if he challenges she cant ping wounds off him. Then again, you are also hoping he survives the 4728573 lance shots.



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ICs will be cautious of his Gaze too though.

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plasma?

even if he uses wings IIRC he doesnt gain HofW attack if he moved 12" in the movement phase...not that it matters, he has an AP3 force weapon & 2+ save.

Space Wolves i expect to see him having troubles with (GH squad with a Termie Wolf Guard "sarg" either walking or DPing.

Guard will start spamming even more plasma...

MeQ armies im not sure, some can go "F*ck you" with him (Death Wing) while others not as well by not being able to spam enough plasma (since it got so much better) like...C:SM.

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plasma works, but only with volume. Wound on 3+, he;s got a 5+ to ignore it and a ton of wounds

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Eldar d-weaponry would do it. Instant death on a six (lol - if I use enough wraithguard)....Now all I have to do is somehow stop him tearing my face off first and using it as a hat....

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plasma works, but only with volume. Wound on 3+, he;s got a 5+ to ignore it and a ton of wounds
Mephiston doesn't have an invun or fnp so he doesn't have a 5+ anything.

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Run a terminator apothecary within 6" and back him up with hammernators. That way he does.



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