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No, it does NOT say so. That's why I ask about it, actually.

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Replace the second and third sentences with: ''The Shadowseer, and all models in her unit, have the Stealth and Shrouded special rules.'
The 2nd and 3rd sentences are merely descriptions.
The 2D6x2 shooting restriction is described in the 4th and 5th sentence of the rules entry.
So, one would assume they get both USR plus the 2D6x2 rule.

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No, it does NOT say so. That's why I ask about it, actually.



The 2nd and 3rd sentences are merely descriptions.
The 2D6x2 shooting restriction is described in the 4th and 5th sentence of the rules entry.
So, one would assume they get both USR plus the 2D6x2 rule.
Funny, in the German FAQ it is the fourth sentence...
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Well, I hate translations, there you go.

We're talking about the English Codex Eldar, the English Codex Dark Eldar and the English FAQs.

And, like I stated / cited above, the 2D6x2 rule is mentioned in the fourth and following sentences, not the second or third, hence why I asked the question in the first place.
As of now, I'd read it that way, that all of the aforementioned rules would apply.
Only a (more refined) future FAQ will tell I guess.

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Well, I hate translations, there you go.

We're talking about the English Codex Eldar, the English Codex Dark Eldar and the English FAQs.

And, like I stated / cited above, the 2D6x2 rule is mentioned in the fourth and following sentences, not the second or third, hence why I asked the question in the first place.
As of now, I'd read it that way, that all of the aforementioned rules would apply.
Only a (more refined) future FAQ will tell I guess.
I know, I asked in a German Forum what's the fourth sentence in the C:Eldar in the German Codex. Maybe that clears things up.

Edit: Okay. The fourth sentence in the German sentence describes the rule part. Maybe they meant second and third paragraph instead of sentence? Cause what's the point in deleting the small part of Fluff?

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No idea ... but I for sure'd love my Harlequins to get +3 to their cover saves in the open plus the 2D6x2 rule ... they're my preferred method of Webway Portal delivery in infantry oriented lists.

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FnP reducing to a 5+ does hurt. But it protects against anything that is not S 6 or greater. So Wyches get to dodge a power sword and FnP if they fail that.

Does anybody know if Drazhar can accept a challenge and then use his Darting Strike to get out of it? It would be a good way to make an enemy character unable to attack and have Drazhar wipe his squad out.

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No, the FAQ specifically says it is before challenges that he does his dart.
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Well, the change in the FNP kind of puts a damper on my grotesque and wrack spam army....
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A 5+ is certainly worse than a 4+. But Grotesques are actually a little more survivable. It takes S 10 weapons to deny them this save. But I feel a serious shift in the army toward shooting builds. This could all change down the road though.

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A 5+ is certainly worse than a 4+. But Grotesques are actually a little more survivable. It takes S 10 weapons to deny them this save. But I feel a serious shift in the army toward shooting builds. This could all change down the road though.
The best way to take out a terminator now is to fire a torrent of shots at it and give your opponent the opportunity to fail that save. You don't need to deny them the 2+ save, just put enough dice in their hands and they'll roll enough ones.

Same for FNP. Don't look for people to deny the save, think of how many mo bolter wounds are going to kill. Statistically, 17% more deaths... Not counting high strength weapons. That sucks!

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