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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 06-29-11, 05:20 PM Thread Starter
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Im here to get a clear understanding of Lash of Submission. Is it a shooting attack or not?
Reasons for it not being a shooting attack:
Under the newest FAQ For the Rulebook considering Psychic Shooting attacks states Q: What psychic powers count as psychic shooting
attacks? (p50)
A: Any psychic power with a profile like that of a
ranged weapon (i.e. has a range, strength and AP
value) and any psychic power that specifically states
that it is a psychic shooting attack.

So, question one. Does Lash have a profile like that of a ranged weapon? No.

Question two. Does Lash specifically state that it is a psychic shooting attack? No.

Reasons for it being a shooting attack:
Its done in the Shooting phase.
Its used instead of using another ranged weapon.

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No it's not, but in the ways it is not are hardly relevant.

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The main reason Im asking is because I was wondering if you can assault a different unit that you Lashed. If it IS a shooting attack, you wouldnt be able to.
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Ive always been under the impression that a psychic ability that requires you to target an enemy unit locks you into only assaulting that unit. I don't even think i've seen lash played any other way?
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it is a PSA, it replaces a weapon in the shooting phase. show me a single ability from a new codex (5th +) that replaces a weapon in the shooting phase that is NOT a psa.

effectively the "replaces a weapon in the shooting phase" line at the beginning was replaced with the words "psychic shooting attack"

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it is a PSA, it replaces a weapon in the shooting phase. show me a single ability from a new codex (5th +) that replaces a weapon in the shooting phase that is NOT a psa.

effectively the "replaces a weapon in the shooting phase" line at the beginning was replaced with the words "psychic shooting attack"
Essentially this. It replaces a shooting attack, it acts like a shooting attack.

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It is a Psykic shooting attack because:

1. the definition from the BRB of a psykic shooting attack is: ""psychic powers that take the form of shooting attacks.." and "... a pstchic shooting attack counts as firing a ranged weapon...

2. Lash must be fired instead of shooting another ranged weapon... , Lash is used in the shooting phase, the word another tells us that its is considered a weapon, ranged weapons must roll to hit

Lash is defined by the same rules that define a psychic shooting and is therefore a psychic shooting attack and must roll to hit when fired.

If it looks like a psychic shooting attack and acts like a psychic shooting attack its a psychic shooting attack.

yeah im not elated about rolling to hit on top of a ptest ether... seems rather redundant really.

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Nope, it is NOT a PSA. the New FAQ defines exactly what is a PSA and Lash does not fit the requirements.

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at the same time, Amaro, it is effectively stating its a Psychic shooting attack, as back in 4th the Psychic shooting attack term did not exist, so technically any 'psychic shooting attack' that does not have a direct profile replaced a ranged attack. Lash does this, Lash is a PSA.

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Aramoro is right though, in that for all that it's a lot like one, Lash technically still is not a PSA.

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