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I don't intend to play Grey knights but I'd thought i put this up there What counts as a Daemon.


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Anything with the Daemon keyword, there is no Foo rule in 40K so a CSM Daemon Prince is not a Daemon but The Avatar is.

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Aramoro, do you mean listed under special rules as "daemon"?

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Another Q for aramo. What actually is a 'Foo' rule anyway??

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Anything that resembles a donkey is also classed as a daemon



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Another Q for aramo. What actually is a 'Foo' rule anyway??
The Foo rule is from card games, basically means that say you had a unit called Daemon Prince of Chaos then it would count as a Daemon, a Prince and Chaos for the purposes of effects. 40K doesn't key like that really, this is undefined but in general if you're looking for something like 'Orks' you looking for something from Codex: Orks. If you're looking for a Daemon you're looking for something with the Daemon Special Rule, a Psyker is something with the Psyker Special rule.

It's not really written down but the lack of Foo rule is talked (in a general way) about in FAQ's. See the Chaos Daemon FAQ about Epidemius.

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Another Q for aramo. What actually is a 'Foo' rule anyway??
"Foo" is a computer programming term for a thing (variable, function, &c) that is being used as a demonstration rather than to actually perform a purpose; other examples are "bar", "qux".

It's purpose is to not be any of the real qualities or rules being discussed, and so avoids confusion.

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Strange.

According to this logic, the Greater Daemons and Lesser daemons from the CSM codex which have no explicit "Daemon" rule, may not be counted as daemons re: Grey Knights.

The closest thing in the CSM codex is possessed which are declared "Daemonkin" and roll on the related chart.

Is that possible?

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Just think of it this way: Those little pieces of filth that are labelled summoned daemons aren't worthy of the name, so aren't considered daemons.

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slap anyone round the head if they argue if a Greater DAEMON, Lesser DAEMON or a DAEMON prince form the CSM codex is not a daemon. They don't say it because it's blody obvious as they have that in there name. The question now is that by that loic Daemonhosts count as daemons.

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