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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-26-07, 06:53 AM Thread Starter
 
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Default A much needed power reduction for the assault cannon?

greetings chaps, just a query on the donkey cannon rending rules in regards to "instant death"? on the weekend i managed to pop off a couple of rounds into a mates farseer, feeling quite confident of killing said xeno with two sixes rolled , he promptly told me that "once the dice were rolled sixes, and rended, the assault cannon is no longer strength six" as you can imagine there was quite a bit of arguing (as my whole battle plan revolved around killing this farseer). and after all that yelling and looking at the rule book and on line it still remains unresolved, sooo does it indeed lose its strength 6?
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Dunno why he would say that.

The assault cannon is a str 6 weapon, just cause it rends doenst mean anything....

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That could well be one of the most blatant attempts at ego-salvaging I've ever seen, if it's entirely the way you put it.

Tell him he's stupid. Also wrong.
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Yeah... I guess I can see the logic in the argument, but that's definitely not the intention of the rules. It's definitely S6-- with rending, the idea is that the roll to wound is irrelivant, that you would succeed to wound regardless of what you actually roll.

Incidentally, your opponent shouldn't be running an independent character around by himself anyway. Only stupid people let characters get themselves shot by themselves. It's one thing when the command squad gets pasted, and quite another when you're dumb enough to have him running around by himself with no friendly targets of the same size to protect him.

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Your opponent is completly wrong and should go home and groom his beard!
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No, he wasn't cheating for the objective of pure victory. I can see what the guy did. He's obviously gone all 'Hey, watch this' with his SUPAR DUPAR ORESUM DOOD, gotten fifty CCs of reality to the face, and in a desperate attempt to repair his shattered ego has fallen upon the first thing he thought of.
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and quite another when you're dumb enough to have him running around by himself with no friendly targets of the same size to protect him.
Or, in fact, of any size.
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Did you [email protected] slap him? That is a blatant out right lie. It is and will remain to be a Strength 6 weapon. Ask him to tell you where the rules remove the strength. If he cannot show you, tell him to piss off.

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i mean all it says is that it automatically wounds with no armor save. it doesnt just say deals one wound. it just tells you to skip a couple steps. although he would get an inv. but if he failed one (likely) hes just space elf goop on the wall.
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ha ha ha, whilst most of all you said was true ( nah .. all of it) the rules (pg 32&46, though some slight deviation in wording for each)state ""any roll to hit of 6 with a rending weapon automatically causes a wound with no armour saving throw possible", the crux of his argument bieng that nowhere in the rules does it state what happens to the strength ie "on a 6 takes an automatic strength six wound no saves allowed", so in his mind the strength value became used bypassing the wearers armour (though obviously not stated thus) , examples of his argument ranged from "why do rail guns automatically penetrate rhino's and can fail to wound a guardsman on a 1",to " it doesn't say it removes the strength, but doesnt say it keeps it either", he did give me the option of "keeping it strength 6, but i would have to roll to wound". anyhoo thanx fellas i will tell him the consensus, though i doubt it will change anything. "the alien fails because it cannot embrace the emperor, ave emperitor lux"
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