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The armylist entry for the Imperial Guard Veteran squad says

"Replace two Veterans with a Veteran Weapons Team armed with one of the following:"

Follows are a list of all heavy weapons available to the IG and their pts cost.

I have two GWs in my local area, at one the red shirts say its obviously meant to mean you can add one heavy weapon per squad just like the rest of the IG infantry entries with this option (Company Command Squad, Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad). The other red shirts say that because none of the armylist entries for any of the above including the Veteran squads say "replace up to two veterans/guardsmen that there could be potentially four heavy weapons in each squad (since srgs do not have the option). In deference to the old codex, they dont let Company/Platoon command squads take more than one heavy weapon. But as a new list entry, they do allow Veteran squads to.

I personally think its sketchy, but by the letter of the rules, who is right?


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You replace 2 Guardsmen with 1 Heavy Weapon Team.
Yes, the wording may be arguable, but the intention is VERY clear.

Frankly I think it's a stretch to even MAKE the argument, let alone think it's true.
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Don't know what the second guy is smoking, but I want some........

Also, the IG FAQ has an Errata changing the wording to:
Page 98 Army List, Veteran Squad
Fifth bullet point, 1st sentence should read:
Replace two other Veterans with a Veteran Weapons Team armed with one of the following:

Bottom line, it's one HW team per squad.

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definately only one HW team per veteran squad.

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Can someone link me the eratta, I really want to kill this at the store, and for the life of me I cant find an eratta for the new dex


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The armylist entry for the Imperial Guard Veteran squad says

"Replace two Veterans with a Veteran Weapons Team armed with one of the following:"

Follows are a list of all heavy weapons available to the IG and their pts cost.

I have two GWs in my local area, at one the red shirts say its obviously meant to mean you can add one heavy weapon per squad just like the reshttps://www.heresy-online.net/forums/images/icons/ork2.PNGt of the IG infantry entries with this option (Company Command Squad, Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad). The other red shirts say that because none of the armylist entries for any of the above including the Veteran squads say "replace up to two veterans/guardsmen that there could be potentially four heavy weapons in each squad (since srgs do not have the option). In deference to the old codex, they dont let Company/Platoon command squads take more than one heavy weapon. But as a new list entry, they do allow Veteran squads to.

I personally think its sketchy, but by the letter of the rules, who is right?
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IMHO, the clarification was there to stop people thinking that two members of the squad HAD to be made into a HWT.



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Can someone link me the eratta, I really want to kill this at the store, and for the life of me I cant find an eratta for the new dex
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_...Guard_2009.pdf

You could find this link on the forum too, it's under 40K rules -> FAQ & Errata
It has all the most recent FAQ's listed there.

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Can someone link me the eratta, I really want to kill this at the store, and for the life of me I cant find an eratta for the new dex
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_...Guard_2009.pdf

They changed the entries to under "Gaming"
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shame that they Errata'd that, i was considering a 5 heavy bolter squad

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shame that they Errata'd that, i was considering a 5 heavy bolter squad
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