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post #21 of 25 (permalink) Old 01-25-07, 10:58 PM
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um how?

i didnt know jetbikes could strike an ordnance template almost every turn and be invulnerable the whole game? its not just that the hawks come in late. its that they actually get to do stuff the whole game AND get to come in and wait. YOU CANT KILL THEM. you could easily drop and basilisk on that squad of jetbikes and destroy them.
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post #22 of 25 (permalink) Old 01-26-07, 07:25 AM
 
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Yeah, but I didn't say that. I said Jetbikes are better quarterbastards.
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post #23 of 25 (permalink) Old 01-26-07, 04:51 PM
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well i dont know, and immortal unit that costs about the same and can end up anywhere? thats some hardcore $4!7. im sure theyll put in an faq you cant use skyleap when you just ds. although gw wants to sell minis and having a unit this amazing is appealing.
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post #24 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-28-07, 08:52 AM
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... And again, since this idea does not die...

Deep Strike - "Troops arriving via deep strike may not move or assault on the turn they arrive. They may shoot as normal, but count as having moved."

Skyleap - "The player may elect to remove a unit with skyleap from the table in its movement phase..."

To use skyleap you must engage the ability during the UNITS movement phase, not your armies, as it states clearly. If it was referring to the Eldar players movement phase it would have said "during the Eldar movement phase" or "during the controlling players movement phase." Instead it uses the possesive adjective form of "is" to denote the individial unit.

Deep strike says plainly that a unit arriving that way counts as having moved ie using its movement phase.

The only way to suggest that they can do both is to say that even if a unit has fufilled the conditions of a given action is still doesn't count as having done so unless it accomplished something related to the action, "Even though it counts as having moved, it still gets to act in its movement phase because it didn't actually cover any distance on the table." Taking this idea further we get "The unit fired during the shooting phase, but because it didn't hit anything, it didn't fufill the purpose of the shooting phase, so it doesn't count as having shot and I get my bonus attacks in assault."
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Just a note.. they are not untouchable. With Deamonhunter Inquistor lord and mystics its possible to take shots at units which enter via Deepstrike or summoning within 4D6 inches of them. If there are 2 mystics they can nominate another unit within 6 inches of them to take this free shot. This shot happens during the movement phase outside normal shooting rules and the unit shooting always counts as stationary.

Just try to use them Yo-Yo Hawks against me..



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