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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-09-14, 02:40 AM
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The great thing about this 2+ cover save thing is, if you're teeing up a game with someone who has no "ignores cover" weapons you don't need to pack power armour! Yea he may have flamers but is str 3/4 really going to both your T6 too much? Probably not really, if you're a gambler, you'll save the 20 points and spend them elsewhere!
The thing is, a competent opponent will usually have ignores cover. Thunderfire cannon, Noise Marines, Tau markerlights, divination-spam, Heldrake Vector Striking then flaming, IG command squad orders... don't let one 2+ cover be the magic bullet you expect to save you every time. Still though, yeah, it'd be damned fun to run a DSing GUO, Be'lakor, and 2 or 3 Nurgle DPs...

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also, it dosn't work in cc. so you will rely on your init and T5 in cc...wich is not reliable at all.

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On the other hand, Be'lakor just got that much better. I mean, it's not like he'll be snapping fire for Puppet Master or anything...
Yeah, Be'lakor is all kinds of silly.

Worth noting that a 2+ cover is far from invincible given the Daemon Prince's meagre defences of T5 and four wounds. You'll have to spend a turn on the ground before you can assault, during which you're still very vulnerable.

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The thing is, he still got jinx there.
Alot more vulnable yes, but 2+ cover save sure does help.

Sure there is alot of weapons that ignore it, but most of the really dangerous stuff does not.
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This is great, I was literally logging in to ask this exact question. I played a 2000pt GK army against a joint Necron and Chaos list and got completely annihilated. Seriously it was embarrassing!!
That 2+ is crazy, I fired about 1500pts of death at it and didn't cause a wound!
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doesnt the IG hydra ignore jinx saves? That should help.

or anything that ignores cover really.
They MC's have to land to assault. Then the ignore cover guns can kill them
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They MC's have to land to assault. Then the ignore cover guns can kill them
Depends. They still have good toughness normally and will generally have a 3+ armour save or 5+ daemon save anyway. Not much outside of Tau that ignores cover tends to have good S and AP (detailed on several threads on many forums) untill you start bringing in FW nonsence.
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well IG again, can give a ignore cover order, to a blob with 5 lascannons.

Or just shoot him with alot of autocannons. Wounds on 2+ and 3+ save. Decent odds.
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well IG again, can give a ignore cover order, to a blob with 5 lascannons.

Or just shoot him with alot of autocannons. Wounds on 2+ and 3+ save. Decent odds.
1.11 wounds per 4 shots at BS3... (4 guys with lascannons)
1.11 wounds per 8 shots at BS3... (4 guys with autocannons)

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The Hydras no longer ignore Jink, but yeah, you can give some of the new orders to blobs with auto cannons inside to ignore their cover save.

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