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Default primary target of Ordo Hereticus not Chaos?

after reading some Dark Heresy fluff, I am of the opinion that the Ordo Hereticus deals mainly with non-Chaos threats

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unorthodox versions of the Imperial Faith (similar to the Spanish Inquisition)
factions of the Mechanicus in favour of progress
mutant insurrectionists (mutated not by the warp but by toxic waste or radiation)
advocate of any form of social change

the 3 main targets of the Ordo Hereticus are mutants, witches, and heretics.

rogue psykers (the "witches") are relatively rare, only a fraction of heretics are chaos followers, and most mutants are the result of exposure to toxic waste in Imperial hives.

once rogue psykers become gateways for daemons, the Ordo Malleus comes in

is there any GW or BL fluff that might contradict my view, which is mostly based on Fantasy Flight fluff?
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All of the things you mentioned eventually will lead to the worship of chaos deliberately or unintentionally at least in the eyes of the Inquisition. Anyone who deviates from the Imperial Creed is in essence a heretic and a potential chaos worshiper.
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The Ordo deals with Heretics, plan and simple. A heretic by the Imperiums thinking is someone who is not a believer of the line that the Emperor is God, Chaos is evil etc. Humanity and Chaos are tied together in destiny, so if your faith is not in the Emperor (Who is ultimately the representation of Humanity) then your a heretic on the path towards Chaos.
Those who don't consider themselves on the path to Chaos are the greatest prizes of Chaos, because the means by which Chaos managed to win over their faith, beliefs and free will was through devilish, underhanded and hidden means.
The Ordo Heretics recognises that, in response, to avoid mankind descending on that path then you must treat all deviances from the path towards the Emperors dreams for Mankind as heretical.

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In much the same way as the Spanish Inquisition, anything that is outside of the standard order is the work of the Devil/Chaos.
Rogue Psykers are like open doors to the warp, whether they worship Chaos or not, mutants are an offence against humanity, therefore they must be the work of Chaos.

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so if the inquisiton (who called the inquistion!!) are the guardians of the soul...what wouldhappen if it became imperial citizen knowledge that thier belief stems from a traitor son? and how would the Inquistion deal with that?
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All of the things you mentioned eventually will lead to the worship of chaos deliberately or unintentionally at least in the eyes of the Inquisition. Anyone who deviates from the Imperial Creed is in essence a heretic and a potential chaos worshiper.
the Ordo Hereticus might paint any deviation from the establishment as the "work of Chaos", but as you imply, that's nothing but official propaganda. Slapping a false label of "Chaos" onto any dissident ideology is simply a propaganda tactic.
The Spanish Inquisition condemned every dissenting opinion as the "work of Satan" simply to justify purging anyone the Inquisition didn't like.

in reality, the Hereticus deals with "threats" that are seldom related to Chaos. They mainly stamp out divergence in thought or physical form (humans don't need Chaos to have different ideals/opinions or to mutate). Ironically, plenty of mutation is caused by the Imperium's own toxic pollutants...
How does advocating scientific progress (as opposed to stagnant techno-magic) make someone more susceptible to worshiping Chaos?

Hereticus inquisitors are the self-righteous thought police of the 41st millennium.
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They mainly stamp out divergence in thought or physical form (humans don't need Chaos to have different ideals/opinions or to mutate).
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The Hereticus deals with, as the name might suggest, heretics. They will combat heresy of all kind, while the Ordo Malleus deals primarily with chaos.

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If you worship Chaos then yes your a heritic, but even if you worship the C'tan or even your favourite pet stone then that is heretical too so you and your pet stone will feel the full force of the Inquisition.

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