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Tell me where, I said, that Storm Troopers were purely used for Police duties on naval vessels?



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You said they were used as police. They clearly are not, as they do not do all the duties required of police. Or even close to all the duties.

Imagine a venn diagram. There are two circles, a Storm Trooper and Military Police circle. There is some overlap, say, 10% or so.

Yes, there is overlap. Saying that Storm Troopers are used as a police force on Naval ships would be insane.
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Fucking hell, you really are pathetic.

The army is used as firefighters on occasion, does this make them firefighters? No does it fuck. I fight alongside American's, does this make me American? Does it fuck.

Didn't realise I was talking to a fucking lawyer here, best watch my words. I was using it in a loose term, as you can tell be myself not going into an in depth answer, as unless you're too retarded to note, we're not dealing with Storm Troopers. I merely made the correlation that on Naval Ships, Storm Troopers are used in the same manner that Arbites, Commissar's, and Armsmen are used.

Christ on a fucking bike, for someone who puts across as being highly intelligent, you're extremely thick when it comes to it.



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Fucking hell, you really are pathetic.

The army is used as firefighters on occasion, does this make them firefighters? No does it fuck. I fight alongside American's, does this make me American? Does it fuck.
My point exactly. I'm glad you came around and accepted it.

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Didn't realise I was talking to a fucking lawyer here, best watch my words. I was using it in a loose term, as you can tell be myself not going into an in depth answer, as unless you're too retarded to note, we're not dealing with Storm Troopers. I merely made the correlation that on Naval Ships, Storm Troopers are used in the same manner that Arbites, Commissar's, and Armsmen are used.
No, you said that Storm Troopers fulfilled the role of [military] police on Naval vessels. I disagreed. Thankfully you withdrew that comment and we now both agree that Storm Troopers are in fact not a policing force.
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OK, I guess from all the arguing and missing the point completely, we never actually got the answer.
So, as I need to know for a story I am writing, and as it is a few years later... are there Military Police (MP's) in the Imperial Guard?

If not... and let me stress this, we are not on board ships here, we are on dry land, let's say a planet and in a garrison town. Who keeps an eye on the Guard when they are off duty and letting their hair down in the bars and other less-desirable hostelries???

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Commissars are Political and Morale officers.

I'd say regiments/brigades would have dedicated Provost units etc as the Storm Troopers are too elite to be used picking up drunken Guardsmen on a Friday night


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There have been mentions of provost troops and commisariat troops as well in various IG novels. They would be the same as MPs.

Seriously though, you're better off starting a new thread than necroing one three and a half years old.
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Actually, I ran a search and came up with this thread. It went nowhere, so I 'woke it up' so-to-speak.
I guess I will never get the definitive answer on here, so I will make it up, without opening up a new thread.

And thanks to Nacho libre's input... that was MOST helpful

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Ciaphas Cain mentions commissarial provosts used in the manner as MPs in For the Emperor, so I guess at least the more junior commissars are like that like e.g. cadet commissars as Ibram Gaunt seemed to slip into that area as stern and reasonable just like Cain. So I would guess the more reasonable commissars would act like MPs.

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