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Default *SPOILERS* New fluff on the Grey Knights

Just got hold of an advance copy of the upcoming Codex: Grey Knights. It's blurry yet readable, with scarce pictures, but the rules and subsequent fluff are all there.

Reading through the whole thing, three things struck me as being really interesting for fluff-addicts like myself.

*SPOILERS from here*


Justicar Anval Thawn

Without explanation, this eternal warrior has died countless times to the daemons of chaos, and each time he has been resurrected days, hours or even minutes after being slain, healing completely from any physical injury as well. The librarians of The Grey Knights have fruitlessly tried Thawn for daemonic corruption, finding no taint whatsoever. Hence he is once again drawn to battle, forever untill the end of time.


Lord Kaldor Draigo, Supreme Grand Master of The Grey Knights

Being both famed and cursed upon his first dealing with the daemon prince M'kar The Reborn, Draigo was yanked into the warp by the out-phasing M'kar on their second meeting. For untold time he has wandered the Realms of Chaos slaying daemons and traitors alike. No foe has ever had the best of him, and now only the most crazed Khornate followers will knowingly oppose him. But in the impossible Realms of Chaos, Draigo is himself an impossiblity. He can never restore order, and every time his zeal has destroyed legions of daemonic followers, they will always return.

Recently he has experienced being drawn from the warp as any other daemonic creature, through the sorceries of corrupted psykers, and several times has he been reunited with The Grey Knights. Fighting alongside his brethren untill his eventual departure back into the warp like the daemons they slay.

NB!: The previous Supreme Grand Master, Janus, is mentioned several times in the Codex, as well as in Draigos entry. Janus was slain by the Daemon Primarch Mortarion, whereafter the enraged Draigo cut Janus' name into Mortarions rotten heart, an insult the Daemon Primarch has never forgotten. (It doesn't say how he gained access to his heart)


Inquisitorial henchman: Jokaero Weaponsmith

Yep, we finally get rules for the little-seen Jokaero race! (Which means they will be a bigger part of the fluff).

With no changes to their background, they are still heavyset, orange-furred space apes with a passing resemblance to the orangutans of ancient Terra. They are described as unpredictable in their work ethics, as they, like ork meks, get inspired in their work, rather than having an overall plan. Hence, should they choose to fickle with a lasgun it might be turned into a much more formidable weapon, or may simply undergo some purely cosmetic changes.


The whole thing is a bit Matt Ward-esque. I think Draigo is the worst example, being able to stay incorruptible in The Realms of Chaos and phasing in and out of reality like the daemons themselves. Oh yeah, and that he OWNED Mortarion

Hope you enjoy!


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Sounds a bit too ridiculous to me...
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Sounds a bit too ridiculous to me...
Seconded.
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Hmm so I take it, that you guys are not interesting in hearing about:

The Dread Knight

A massive mecha-esque walker, intended to combat Greater Daemons 1v1. The pilot is an honored hero of the Grey Knights, and the Mechanicus suspects its origins to be entirely alien.

Brought to you from Transformers by Matt Ward.


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I thought "killed by mortarion? That's pretty cool, good to see a deanon primarch get a mention in recent times, and then I read the bit about the heart and it all went even more downhill
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*yawn* same old same old, guy who can't die, guy who can't be corrupted, orange monkey...ok maybe a little different and optimus dreadknight, BORING (and the only word matt ward knows).

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Lord Kaldor Draigo, Supreme Grand Master of The Grey Knights

Being both famed and cursed upon his first dealing with the daemon prince M'kar The Reborn, Draigo was yanked into the warp by the out-phasing M'kar on their second meeting. For untold time he has wandered the Realms of Chaos slaying daemons and traitors alike. No foe has ever had the best of him, and now only the most crazed Khornate followers will knowingly oppose him. But in the impossible Realms of Chaos, Draigo is himself an impossiblity. He can never restore order, and every time his zeal has destroyed legions of daemonic followers, they will always return.

Recently he has experienced being drawn from the warp as any other daemonic creature, through the sorceries of corrupted psykers, and several times has he been reunited with The Grey Knights. Fighting alongside his brethren untill his eventual departure back into the warp like the daemons they slay.
Errmmm...what? The highlighted bits stand out the most "Wait..what?!" worthy of all of that. Two queries:

1. How can a material being such as a human (albeit, Astartes) withstand being in the warp? The warp has no natural dimensions, the laws of physics mean nothing. Force? Worthless. Atoms? Playthings. Cellular structures? Ha, get real. The only reason ships aren't torn apart by the sheer random chaos of it all is because of their Gellar fields, and even these can buckle under the supreme strain of the crashing tides of the warp. How does one lonely Astartes not get torn to pieces in seconds?

2. He can be summoned! Even if he could have survived in the warp, how does he get accidentally summoned by corrupt sorceries? From what you read in the Chaos Daemons codex, it would appear that when a warp rift is being opened for daemons to pour through, the daemons congregate on the other side, waiting to be loosed on the material universe.

I can't really imagine Draigo standing shoulder to shoulder with a bloodcrusher listening to how it's Khorne's "Time of the millennia", exchanging psychic tips with a herald of Tzeentch and gossiping with a seeker about who is Slaanesh's latest sex-toy.

If nothing else, I'm not seeing that part, if any, of Lord Kaldor Draigo (if that is his real name) being legit.
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/tg/ leaked some of the pages from the WIP Codex, therein causing much raeg - especially concerning Draigo. Again, the pages are blurry, but Draigo is depicted as having massive amounts of plot armor, getting sent into the warp by M'kar and destroying tons of daemons in there, killing a Bloodthirster and using the remains of its shattered axe to reforge his sword, burying M'kachen in tons of rock when he tried to tempt him (you'd think the Daemons would know better, but Ward disagrees) and setting fire to the Garden of Nurgle.

Just to put this in perspective, it took 100 Grey Knight Termies to banish Angron and his daemonic host, and only one (Aurelian) survived, but Draigo apparently managed to fight and win all across the Warp for an unprecedented amount of time, considering the way time runs in the warp. And according to Matt Ward, he is so super-godly-awesome that daemons became scared of him. If that's not plot-armor, I don't know what is.

Sure, there's a modicum of tragedy behind being trapped in the warp forever and being released into the material world a couple times before being drawn back again, but the question remains: why in teh God-Emprah's nehm is he not dead yet?! The presence of copious amounts of plot armor nullifies whatever tragedy there is and brings it right back to stupidity.

Still, the codex isn't being released until around April, so we'll just have to trust Alan Merrett to do the right thing.

Homebrew stuff for your viewing pleasure:
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Still, the codex isn't being released until around April, so we'll just have to trust Alan Merrett to do the right thing.
Burn the fluff, kill Matt Ward and start all over again?
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i've read the leaked document and I can confirm all of the above. You thought the 5th edition Marine codex's fluff was bad? That pales in comparison to the new GK stuff.

Appearantly Terminators form the core of Grey Knight armies, with Grey Knights in power armor performing specialist roles now.
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