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I've been considering writing up some fluff on my own personal Imperial Guard armored regiment. I am curious as to what a 'reasonable' size would be in the grand-scale of the 41st Millennium.

I know that IG regiments vary in size dramatically from perhaps 5 men to 500,000. But what would be a moderate number? I'm talking not just about the men in general, but the tanks as well. I don't want to be proporting that my regiment has 40,000 tanks and such.


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Traditionally there is squads of 10 men.
3 squads to a platoon.
4 platoons to a company.
4 companies to a battalion.
4 battalions to a regiment.
4 regiments to a division.
Plus attached armor and support units.

So probably around 10,000 troops and about 3-4,000 vehicles.

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From what I've been able to gather, there's usually 10 tanks to a company. That probably means 60 men to a company. Say, about 15 companies makes up a regiment (at least in Infantry regiments). That's a base of 900 men.

Then you need on-hand replacement crews, mechanics, priests (bot of the spiritual and Mechanicus side), support crew manning the atlases, and the like and you could probably end up around 1500-1800 men in the least.

The Imperial Guard Codex mentions an armored regiment toward its start that says it only had 1500 men. In the context of the Codex, however, this was pitched as a small regiment. Then again, it may just be low when compared to standard infantry regiments. It goes to say Super-Heavy regiments number only a dozen machines and those are probably the smallest regiments in terms of head counts. So I don't think that this 1500 number is the smallest possible.

Given that this unit you're making is at full strength, I'd probably pitch somewhere around 900-2000 men. This depends on how many companies of the regiment are manned by 6 manned tanks, 10 company tanks, versus less men-intensive companies of artillery, sentinels, ect.
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I'd say perhaps 9-10 tanks in each company, 3 tanks in a squad and if there is a Baneblade, that would make up an entire company by itself. I would recommend Gunheads-novel if you want to take a look into an armored regiment. Im not sure, but I do believe reading in the Apocalyps expansion for 40k they make up how many men there are in a regiment and how many tanks there is in a company on 1-2 pages.
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I think three Baneblades together make a super-heavy company, which is less a unit in its own right and more an asset used by an entire Army, right?
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I think three Baneblades together make a super-heavy company, which is less a unit in its own right and more an asset used by an entire Army, right?
Indeed. And it's rare that these beasts fight together. They're usually parceled out across a front to bolster Imperial forces.

Although in the Tyranid codex it talks about a Baneblade company that appears that all three fought together. Since it says that a single Tyranofex destroyed all three. It's possible that a single Tyranofex went up and down the line and destroyed all three, and the Crimsonfell defenders were able to recognize it was the same one (unlikely, but perhaps it had a distinct color or notable wounds on it?), but more likely all three were used as a spear for the Imperial counterattack and was trashed by the Tyranofex.

So, to recap...yeah, they usually fight separately, but occasionally, when hit poop hits the fan they can fight together.
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I wouldn't worry so much as to how many are in a regiment. What I think is important is to make up some characters, give them life and learn as you go. Look at Gaunts Ghosts, it's the 1st Regiment, but you only know of maybe a squad of main characters. So I don't think numbers are the issue, characters and the like are. If you write more "sequels" you can create mor characters. Commisar Cain's books are a good example too... Same Valhallan regiment, different characters who go along with him! good luck man

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Yeah focus on a dozen characters at first, otherwise you will lose the reader. You as the creator have a much easier time remembering them. But you could keep in mind "Well there are about this many left" so there wont be a contradictory about how many there are present, for example the Astartes Legions during the Great Crusade.
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I don't think he's worried about having 4000 characters. He probably just wants to make sure when he writes his background that he doesn't say his regiment is made up of 500 super heavies supported by 50,000 tanks. He wants to make sure his regiment is within the ballpark of other ones.
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Very true and thank you all for your input. Anymore advice or comments would be appreciated.


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