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post #21 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-05-10, 08:55 AM
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i also like idea with gemstone,

or may be is one of lost primarchs

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Could it be Captain Tycho?
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GW does not have the balls to bring a loyalist Primarch back nor in a direct or indirect way, still I think the idea with the gem stones was great
if gw wanted to bring back a primarch, loyalist or otherwise i think they would, its not a question of wether or not they have the balls to do so. IMHO they just do not believe it is condusive to the needs of thier universe at the moment.
its better to let the likes of us speculate and wish and all that then actually say yeah here he is its the angel in a new body
however it is an interesting theroy the waystone one, personally i think it was just armour decoration but its a theroy never the less. i know the blood angels sanguinus books were good, i did enjoy them and the fact they played on the wish of the angels to see thier father resurected and how it brought about about a civil war within the chapter and almost brought the blood angels to thier knees.
as for sanguinus resurected i don't think he is but i do think that maybe rafen has slightly more of sanguinus in him then his brothers at least deus sanguinus and deus encarmine lead me to believe that.
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as for sanguinus resurected i don't think he is but i do think that maybe rafen has slightly more of sanguinus in him then his brothers at least deus sanguinus and deus encarmine lead me to believe that.

Wasn't there a kind of spiritual manifestation of Sanguinius to Rafen at the one stage when he was hiding from the Blood Angels loyal to Arkio and praying for guidance to that little Emperor statue. I haven't read those books in a while so my memory is a bit hazy and I don't have my copy of the omnibus on hand coz' that other prick who has my orks codex also still has that as well. Anyway, what would that be? The actual spirit of Sanguinius manifesting from the warp to answer the call of one of his loyal sons? the Sanguinor? or somehing else, like Rafen simply hallucinating because of early black rage symptoms?

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Could it be Captain Tycho?
Nah Psycho Tycho dies fairly recently and the Sanginor has been around for at least 1200 years, probably more as Dante remembers him.

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Wasn't there a kind of spiritual manifestation of Sanguinius to Rafen at the one stage when he was hiding from the Blood Angels loyal to Arkio and praying for guidance to that little Emperor statue. I haven't read those books in a while so my memory is a bit hazy and I don't have my copy of the omnibus on hand coz' that other prick who has my orks codex also still has that as well. Anyway, what would that be? The actual spirit of Sanguinius manifesting from the warp to answer the call of one of his loyal sons? the Sanguinor? or somehing else, like Rafen simply hallucinating because of early black rage symptoms?
i was wondering that myself chompy and it could be any of the above,whether it was sangs spirit or some other mystical vision remains to be seen but is it me or is Mephiston taking a great deal of interest in sargeant Rafen, more then anyone else thats for certain, and he did wield the spear....hmmm
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to gothik,
GW can bring the primarchs back for sure but doing that can be opening a box of Pandora,
I honestly do think they do not have the guts (wisdom) to do it, that being said I do not think the current setting needs extra primarchs to make it more interesting. For example the mess the BA are in described in the last codex promises a tantalizing read.
I was wondering if other successor chapters of the BA are helped by the sanguinator or just the BA, that micht shed some light on the case, I assule a primarch would help all his children no?
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The fluff on The Sanguinor is so dodgy.

"The blood angel strikeforce were struggling and then...errm, this angel thing shows up and...kills everything. Blood angels win."

That pretty much sums up the repetitive role the Sanguinor plays historically.

Personally, I think it was just an excuse to get someones ridiculous idea into the codex.

However, I do believe it's given way to both Pre-heresy Angron and the BA primarch (whos name I can't remember...how embarressing :/) in terms of gameplay.
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he is probably a blood angel equivalent of one of the legion of the damned. shows up, rescues and kicks major ass, then leaves.

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or the loyal spirit of the red angel?!
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