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post #21 of 81 (permalink) Old 11-14-10, 05:12 AM
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They are much scarier, in a way, but they also have lost their drive to conquer the imperium. When they ascended they achieved the ultimate goal. Now their main goal is the game(see CoTE because I have no idea). But, really, even if they are it wouldn't matter simply because they don't have the numbers.
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Why is there even a contest between Russ vs Angron?? When Lion throws him throw a table, then knocks his ass out, (even if it was because Russ started to laugh) and Lion isnt even a well known CC specialist, but yet somehow Russ can beat the most renowned CC fighter...I smell Wolf Fanboy shenanigans.

BTW being knocked out cold by 1 punch, means you got a shit chin...
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Why is there even a contest between Russ vs Angron?? When Lion throws him throw a table, then knocks his ass out, (even if it was because Russ started to laugh) and Lion isnt even a well known CC specialist, but yet somehow Russ can beat the most renowned CC fighter...I smell Wolf Fanboy shenanigans.

BTW being knocked out cold by 1 punch, means you got a shit chin...
The Wolf King was one of the greatest fighters of the primarchs. Also, he was laughing his ass off when he was knocked out. It isn't as though it was a fair hit. Btw he also ripped a titans head off with his bear hands and beat the living shit out of the largest primarch.

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Well it was a close fight with Magnus it was not a walk in the park for Russ,
still my money is one Russ,
In terms of strength and endurance they are comparable I think Russ is more cunning.
Angron can only be in a state of utter desire for destruction. The fact that Russ can also be in another state (e.g. Drunk, hungry) does not mean he cannot go Bezerk.
Would be a cool fight though
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Didn't Russ take a powerfist punch by the Emperor, as well as at another time by The Lion?

Tbh though I think it's pretty equal Primarch to Primarch, all the advantages Russ has like being a Pariah don't really effect Angron and don't forget Angron isn't totally Mindless he was a gladiator, his prowess in martial ability is equal to his berserk character.
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Its funny how people compare two people and two forces with one side having much less written fluff than the other. There isn't a whole book on how the World Eaters conquer a world (Horus Rising comes to mind), except for a few hints that they massacred everyone and anyone who got in their way. Take this into consideration when comparing these two (or rather any) sides.

When the two Legions would clash they would probably have their Primarchs with them. The battlefield would be most likely a mountain or a forest (definately not a city, its not a place for a Legion vs Legion duel) where the Space Wolves could set up all sorts of ambushes. I imagine the World Eaters would close up to the mountain (lets stick to this for the example's sake) but they'd stop just beyond the SW's guns' range. Angron would step up and challange Russ and his Legion (lets not forget, outrageous challanges are part of a gladiator's tricks), calling them gutless cowards for hiding behind bushes and not putting up a fight like a true warrior. He'd say that if Russ doesn't come out he'll go back to his ship and tell the whole world that the Space Wolves are just puppy hugging women who can't put up a good fight. Sure, its obvious that hes taunting Russ but Angron isn't the type who wouldn't do what he says he would. With this in mind Russ has no chance but to come out with his Legion and take it like a man.

The first few minutes would involve some shooting from both sides but not too much, seeing as how both armies are honour-bound and have a preferance for close combat over hiding behind big guns. Both sides would be charging each other, eager for blood and glory. Say what you want about either side but there would be much bloodshed before the day is done. But we all know that every army is as strong as their lord...

Eventually, Angron and Russ would manage to reach each other and engage in a merciless duel. The fighting would slowly stop as both sides witness the clash of demigods - or perhaps not, who knows? Either way, the Primarchs would have trouble gaining the upper hand over the other one, having roughly the same stamina (hunting vs endless training), lasting out the other is not an option either. However, as the fight goes on Angron's gladiatorial training starts to kick in, as he adapts to his opponent's fighting style and slowly at first, but even faster as the duel rages on Angron would grind Russ into the ground (since while Russ might be badass incarnate, hes more used to having options and using a cleverly chosen set of special abilities so that he can counter his opponent's strengths by exploting his weaknesses, rather than being stuck in a situation where his opponent has no psychic powers at all that he could nullify, no too-clever-and-thus-distracted mind, just sheer strength, stamina and skill; if he had any offensive psychic powers (which he doesn't as far as I know) he could gain the upper hand because thats the only weak spot in Angron's armour (other than being a better fighter than him)). Russ would fall eventually, leaving Angron badly injured. The Space Wolves' morale would be destroyed, the World Eater's would be swelling with pride and the Space Wolves would be reduced to where the Crimson Fists currently are: only the best survive but still, too few to be a well-functioning force.

Thats my take on it with the limited knowledge I have of the sides involved. However, it has to be said that both sides could possibly win, so at the end of the day it would boil down to which side having plot armour. But even so, it would be a very, very close call.

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From all evidence given, Angron does not seem the type to bunker down in a good position and taunt someone out. And im of the opinion that whomever won the duel would die from their own wounds shortly after anyway
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From all evidence given, Angron does not seem the type to bunker down in a good position and taunt someone out.
Nah, he won't bunker down. He'll wave his arms around like chicken wings and make clucking noises till Russ can't stand it anymore.

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From all evidence given, Angron does not seem the type to bunker down in a good position and taunt someone out. And im of the opinion that whomever won the duel would die from their own wounds shortly after anyway
I didn't say that, I just said that he wouldn't jump into an obvious trap and he would make Russ fall into his obvious trap instead.

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Nah, he won't bunker down. He'll wave his arms around like chicken wings and make clucking noises till Russ can't stand it anymore.
That would certainly work! Oh god, make me unsee it!

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post #30 of 81 (permalink) Old 11-15-10, 01:57 PM
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I don't think he would even set a trap, it just does not seem to be in his character type or personality at all, and even if he did, the chances of Russ falling for such an obvious trap are slim

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