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#1 ·
Do you have any questions that don't really seem to fit any other threads and feel it wouldn't be worth making a new one just for it? I thought it would be neat to make this thread for everybody so I'll start off...

How long does it aprox take to become a space marine? This includes everything from after being selected until being part ov a chapter. And also, how long do techmarines have to train on Mars?
 
#555 ·
No idea. But considering that Navigators must undergo the soul binding ritual, it is possible that only they can "see" it in any sense. But then it is a common theory that the astronomicon is what drew the tyranids to this galaxy.

In short, my guess would be that they can see it, but like Imperials looking at the EoT it may be quite an unpleasant experience.

here's a nice little question i thought it would be rather nice to ask concerning what i'm getting myself into.

now, regarding a RP i just made, what is the normal length of time a inquisitor normally goes through before taking on death watch? also, how long do marines stay in death watch before going out on a mission? i assume there's a minimum time here, as the black paint possibly shouldn't be dripping wet.

another question that i need some answering to, regarding death watch (ok a lot of death watch questions, i know, but they're good for RP as it leaves marine players to stick with their favorite chapter, kinda wish i would see more ultra smurfs though)
what are normal armory load outs for "beggaring" bands of death watch? also what is the bare minimum a armory can be outfitted with and still be considered a adequate armory? what kind of armories would be considered under par?

now please, i'm actually being rather serous here, and would greatly appreciate the help for these questions as they could very well influence and or help the RP i just made.
Deathwatch astartes are recruited from various chapters and fielded in kill teams. An astartes will typically be joined to the ordo xenos for a year or two, I cannot remember exactly.

As far as I know, an Inquisitor will be an acolyte for a number of years, so by the time he is an Inquisitor, he will probably have the experience needed to fulfill any role required of him.

Not completely sure on armoury, but they will have specialist ammunition (like sternguard) as a bare minimum I would say. :)

Hope I`ve been helpful. :)
 
#554 ·
here's a nice little question i thought it would be rather nice to ask concerning what i'm getting myself into.

now, regarding a RP i just made, what is the normal length of time a inquisitor normally goes through before taking on death watch? also, how long do marines stay in death watch before going out on a mission? i assume there's a minimum time here, as the black paint possibly shouldn't be dripping wet.

another question that i need some answering to, regarding death watch (ok a lot of death watch questions, i know, but they're good for RP as it leaves marine players to stick with their favorite chapter, kinda wish i would see more ultra smurfs though)
what are normal armory load outs for "beggaring" bands of death watch? also what is the bare minimum a armory can be outfitted with and still be considered a adequate armory? what kind of armories would be considered under par?

now please, i'm actually being rather serous here, and would greatly appreciate the help for these questions as they could very well influence and or help the RP i just made.
 
#559 ·
What would happen if a Blank went into the warp? I assume that their body would just fade away but would it do any "harm" to the warp's energies?

And while Blanks are on ships do they effect the warp at all by their prescence? I don't think they would because their shields act as a barrier (I think they are called Geller Fields?)
 
#560 ·
A blank in the warp would likely just die. Remember that a blank can be burned out just like a psyker, which would negate the effects of their null aura and render them as vulnerable to the warp as any mortal.

When a blank is transported on a ship, all is as normal so long as they are kept far from the ship`s navigators and astropaths.

:)
 
#562 ·
The answer to both is yes.

One example of a female techpriest is Felicia from the Ciaphas Cain series, and remember that adeptus sororitas is subservient to the ecclesiarchy. There are non militant ordos devoted to teaching and research, similar to nuns today. :)
 
#564 ·
1.. question- difference between custode and primarch

so the primarchs were created by the emperor.. using the emperor genetic material.. and the space marines (the first 20 legions) were created by the genetic material of the primarchs.... so what about custodes..

it is said custodes are a foot taller then space marines...and stronger, essentialy more powerful then a space marine..

what is the difference between a custode and primarch, there both bigger and stronger then a regular space marine..

is a primarch superior to a custode...

in the creation of the custodes did they use genetic material from the emperor like the primarchs, or something else
 
#565 ·
Primarchs are superior to custodes, custodes are superior to SM
Their geneseed was more "directly" from the E

:Grin:

And just a tip make sure that the person above's question gets answered too. So if you wanted to ask a question then jsut say at the end of yours "hey make sure you answer Androxine's as well." thanks because my above questions are SOO much more important than urs :p

woop
 
#568 ·
@Androxine: Malice represents self loathing and the self destructive nature of Chaos. He desires the destruction of the others, but will never amass the power to even be on the same level as them.

@Emperorguard: The difference between a custode and a primarch is immense.

A custode is supposedly created from the emperor`s own genetic coding, through a refined process not unlike that used with the primarchs. They are grown in a vat from infancy. This is the primary difference between them and astartes. Where a custode is completely manufactured so to speak, an astartes is a human "modified: by a primarch`s geneseed.

A primarch is one of the Emperor`s greatest works. He used his own genes to create them, to infuse them with a measure of his power. It was a similar process to creating the custodes, but there was one major difference.

The Emperor used knowledge and power granted by the Chaos Gods to create the primarchs. That is why their power is so much greater.
 
#572 ·
The difference obviously being is that Honsou isn't an Imperial. Chaos Astartes Warbands could easily be made up of different Astartes bearing different geneseed (with a few exceptions), but its different for the Loyalists.

For the Imperials I very much doubt there would ever be an individual Astartes that would desire to join a different Chapter after having already joined a Chapter. But desire aside, each Chapter is a very proud and individual organisation, they would not just allow an Astartes of a different lineage join their own. An Ultramarine could not just become a Blood Angel for example (and not just in the biological sense).
 
#575 ·
The blood angels succumb to the red thirst as images of their primarch's death at the hands of horus, which is implanted in their geneseed. this causes a bloodlust and rage in the blood angels.
 
#577 ·
@Androxine vortex
The imperials wouldn't do it fearing contamination.
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Emperorguard500
It was the trauma from his death that left the black rage. The red thirst has always been there and Sanguinius didn't have a geneseed.
 
#586 ·
No space marine has "succumbed" to sleep deprivation to my knowledge so theoretically they could last indefinitely through, like AoB says, resting half their brain but they do, or at least did, go fully unconscious when given a chance. The record for going without fully being unconscious (possibly out of date) is in a space marine codex (the one with a crimson fist on the cover) or possibly a Dark Angel codex from around the same time, I don't have either on me but it was no more than 100 days. It was a whole squad/company who had to remain in a state of constant vigilence for some reason or other.
 
#589 · (Edited)
As far as I know, there is no standard organization or order of battle. Most squadrons or taskforces are built around a battleship or heavy cruiser.

The Imperial fleet gathered to defend Tarsis Ultra in Warriors of Ultramar, for instance, was composed of the Argus, a Victory-class battleship; the Sword of Retribution, an Overlord-class battlecruiser; the Kharloss Vincennes, a Dictator-class cruiser converted to a dedicated carrier; three Dauntless-class light cruisers; three Sword-class frigates and six Cobra-class destroyers, as well as the attached Space Marine strike cruisers Vae Victus and Mortis Probati. This was a considerable force gathered specifically to counter a tendril of Hive Fleet Leviathan and not the standard monitor ships of the system, which probably wouldn’t have amounted to much more than a handful of destroyers or smaller ships at most.

There were only a few patrol cutters and picket ships to defend the world of Adumbria in The Traitor’s Hand, but the Armageddon-class battlecruiser Indestructible II, two Falchion-class frigates and three destroyers did arrive to defend the planet from a Chaos attack.

At the Battle of Gethsemane, the pivotal battle of the Gothic War, Admiral Ravensburg had amassed the bulk of Battlefleet Gothic, which amounted to seventeen capital ships (two battleships, two battlecruisers, and thirteen cruisers and light cruisers), and twenty escorts (frigates and destroyers).

System defenses would vary from system to system. An important forge world or sector capital would likely have at least one or more Ramilies-class star forts (or other large defense platform/space station) in orbit in addition to maybe a dozen or more monitor vessels, scores of gunboats and other orbital and ground based defense batteries. Segmentum capitals would have really massive defenses with naval assets coming and going all the time, while small population agri-worlds would have virtually nothing aside from maybe a patrol vessel or two.
 
#590 ·
Alright mates, I have some questions for you:

I don't know how deep GW went with this but what is the Well of Eternity? Some back ground history would be nice.

The Deceiver is a master at schemes, lies and tricks, but does he do this for the here and now or is his plans always aimed for the future? If they are aimed for the future, how far down the road?

Is there a specific date for the origins of the old ones or is it one of those ambiguous things?

Any answers would be deeply appreciated. Might even rep for some really good info...
 
#592 ·
I don't know how deep GW went with this but what is the Well of Eternity? Some back ground history would be nice.
This is most likely a piece of filler fluff that will never have consequence beyond Fateweaver`s backstory. Much like the World Tree in the Warcraft Lore, it is the origin of all the power of the universe. If I were to speculate, I would say it is the part of the warp that represents the moment of creation and also the moment of ending of this universe.

The Deceiver is a master at schemes, lies and tricks, but does he do this for the here and now or is his plans always aimed for the future? If they are aimed for the future, how far down the road?
The Deceiver could almost be considered a combination of Tzeentch and Cegorach. His plans are far reaching and impossible to fathom, as seen in the Eye of Terror Campaign. However, he is not above playing petty games for his own amusement, as seen in Deus Ex Mechanicus.

Is there a specific date for the origins of the old ones or is it one of those ambiguous things?
No specific dates are given for anything beyond humanity`s history and rise to power. A loose order of events can be gleaned from sources like the necron and eldar codexes. The Old Ones were the first terrestrial life forms to achieve sentience and interstellar travel.


Dogbeard has some good information as well. :)
 
#591 ·
The only place I recollect reading about the Well of Eternity is in the background for Fateweaver in the Chaos Daemons Codex. It's described as being the very centre of reality, "where space and time originate and end," and a place where even Tzeentch fears to tread. Presumably, it is a metaphysical location that encompasses all of Time and Space, the originating point of the universe.

The Deceiver ultimately seems to be playing a long game, but he's also somewhat capricious and doesn't seem to shun a bit of mischief. He was the primary agent in convincing the Necrontry to become the Necrons, and may also have been responsible for the C'tan turning on and devouring each other until only four remained (he definitely is the one who betrayed the Nightbringer to the Old Ones and their allies). By 40K, he's been awake for thousands of years, roaming the galaxy and laying the groundwork for his larger plans.

The C'tan and Necrons went into hibernation roughly 60 million years ago; the War in Heaven lasted many thousands of years, and the Old Ones were an old race of virtual immortals by the time it started. There is no specific timeline for the Old Ones, but they are supposed to have been among the oldest races to travel the stars of our galaxy. Considering that the galactic disk formed approximately 10 billion years ago, they could be really, really, really old.

Cheers.
 
#593 ·
Oh I got myself one of those annoying questions again. I dont have my own Eisenhorn book available at the moment but you can try your best. Well in the book, the old g/f of Eisenhorn works at the local "university" if Im not misstaken. What is the High Gothic version for saying university? Is it universiat or something like it?
 
#595 ·
@forkmaster, universitariate.

@AV, I think the C'tan basically feed on the life essence of living beings, leaving their souls (the warp essence, for lack of a better term); they can survive on the energy emitting by stars, but they find life energy more satisfying. The Necrons themselves don't seem to consume life energy, merely kill things of behalf of their C'tan masters.
 
#597 ·
I don't think it's ever been suggested that Necrons harvest life energy themselves; they simply seem to snuff life out where they find it. Originally, the Nightbringer harvested the Necrontyr, consuming their life energy, but after they were enslaved as the Necrons, he turned his attention to other races. When not specifically directed by their C'tan masters, the Necrons (in particular the Lords, who still have memories of life) harbor a deep and abiding resentment for all life, which seems to lead them to want to destroy it.

It's rumored that in the next Necron Codex, the C'tan will be more removed and the Necron Lords will take a more central role in guiding the Necrons and their actions; I suppose we'll just have to wait and see if this is the case.
 
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