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post #1051 of 1113 (permalink) Old 02-01-14, 09:47 PM
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1) In Know no Fear, How was Kor Phaeron aware of Omegon? He mentions having two copies of Lorgars work for the Alpha Legion.
I don't think he explicitly mentions Omegon, and could just be thinking that Alpharius would appreciate the two copies that are slightly different since that was Alpharius' schtick (and everyone knew that, even if they didn't know that he had a twin - the whole infiltration and manipulation gig was pretty famous as the Alpha Legion way of doing it).

But that's essentially baseless, and I'd be interested to see more light shed on it and on the rest of your questions, so I'll just bump this here.

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He doesn't explicitly mention Omegon you're right but it was so obvious that he knew of his existence.
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2) What were humans fighting in the DaoT to require all the machines we in WH40k: Thunderhawks, Rhinos, Land Cruisers, etc. Some of the machines just don't make sense for humans to have operated and to have used in war. And again, who were they fighting to have required such varied designs?
Orks, Eldar, Hrud etc. A lot of the species that the Imperium faced during the Great Crusade, and in 40K, were encountered during the Dark Age of Technology. In fact one of the first major interspecies galactic wars involving humanity was against the Orks.
The machine designs were predicated on a list of conditions submitted to the STC database, which would come up with a blueprint for a vehicle(s) that would fulfill as many of those criteria as possible, the Rhino for example was a rugged civilian transport for frontier worlds before it became re-purposed as a useful Armoured Transport.

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3) Who are the Ferrymen in The Emperor's Gift? At first I thought it was an Exorcist, being an Astartes with no soul, but then we see him lift a casket unarmored with ease that four Grey Knights struggled to carry together.
Whilst I can't comment on his great strength from all the descriptions given about him it would suggest he was a Pariah purposely recruited into the Grey Knights for specific roles.

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4) Since Grey Knights apparently can have aspirations, such as to further themselves up the political ladder like we see in the EG with that one Grey Knight who got killed by Grimnar, do you suppose the Exorcists are better at the role of daemon hunting? They have no souls so they cannot be possessed and due to a lack of a soul, they probably don't have the desire to prosper inherent in human souls. Grey Knights have souls and in the EG, Hyperion states that their immunity to corruption lies in their training more so than being imbued with the Emperor's DNA/essence.
Exorcists have souls, you're getting them confused with Pariahs*. And the inability to interact with the Universe as one with a 'soul' does doesn't mean they can be without ambition or flaws- case in point pretty much every other Pariah/Untouchable etc we read about in other novels- they have unique gifts, or curses depending on your perception, but are not any less corruptible in a moral sense than another human. The traditional 40K chaotic ways of corrupting someone will not work on them but the present day methods might (blackmail, bribery, extortion etc).

*Exorcists are a Chapter of Space Marines who have been purposely possessed by a daemon and then expulsed said entity with willpower and training- it makes them formidable daemon hunters but still not on the level of the GK.

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Orks, Eldar, Hrud etc. A lot of the species that the Imperium faced during the Great Crusade, and in 40K, were encountered during the Dark Age of Technology. In fact one of the first major interspecies galactic wars involving humanity was against the Orks.
The machine designs were predicated on a list of conditions submitted to the STC database, which would come up with a blueprint for a vehicle(s) that would fulfill as many of those criteria as possible, the Rhino for example was a rugged civilian transport for frontier worlds before it became re-purposed as a useful Armoured Transport.
True, some vehicles were reoutfitted to suit the WH40k landscape but I just can't picture augmented humans driving around in a Stormbird for example or firing bolters or miniature versions of them.

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Exorcists have souls, you're getting them confused with Pariahs*. And the inability to interact with the Universe as one with a 'soul' does doesn't mean they can be without ambition or flaws- case in point pretty much every other Pariah/Untouchable etc we read about in other novels- they have unique gifts, or curses depending on your perception, but are not any less corruptible in a moral sense than another human. The traditional 40K chaotic ways of corrupting someone will not work on them but the present day methods might (blackmail, bribery, extortion etc).

*Exorcists are a Chapter of Space Marines who have been purposely possessed by a daemon and then expulsed said entity with willpower and training- it makes them formidable daemon hunters but still not on the level of the GK.
According to Steve Parker's Deathwatch, the Exorcists have no souls.

That's true, the bit about pariahs having ambitions, etc. I just assumed that coupled with their psycho-indoctrination, the Grey Knights would be above such things just like how they've eradicated their desire for lust.
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Do Imperial ships have infinite fuel, if not then what is it?
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Promethium and plasma
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Promethium and plasma
Where do they put the promethium in? On a side note, really promethium they use (space) gas/oline/petrol/whatever you call it for their space ships.

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From Know no Fear :


In the dark pits of drive rooms and engineering chambers, hosts of stokers and allworks slave away with furious effort. The chambers are infernal, soot-caked and lit by the ruddy glare of the vast engines and reactor furnaces.

Armies of stokers, sweat-sheened and roaring, eyes like white stones in blackened faces, shovel fuel ores and promethium pellets into the iron chutes. Servitor crews, their metal skins colour-bruised like old kettles by the constant heat, lever and haul on the throbbing activator rods that quicken the drive plants.

Coal-black chains swing. Bellows wheeze and flush dragon-breath balls of roiling fire up flues and vent pipes.

Abhuman labourers, troll-like and grunting, swelter as they drag in monolithic payload carts of raw fuel from the silo decks
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In the dark pits of drive rooms and engineering chambers, hosts of stokers and allworks slave away with furious effort. The chambers are infernal, soot-caked and lit by the ruddy glare of the vast engines and reactor furnaces.

Armies of stokers, sweat-sheened and roaring, eyes like white stones in blackened faces, shovel fuel ores and promethium pellets into the iron chutes. Servitor crews, their metal skins colour-bruised like old kettles by the constant heat, lever and haul on the throbbing activator rods that quicken the drive plants.

Coal-black chains swing. Bellows wheeze and flush dragon-breath balls of roiling fire up flues and vent pipes.

Abhuman labourers, troll-like and grunting, swelter as they drag in monolithic payload carts of raw fuel from the silo decks
TY. So like a coal/steam ship.
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Anyone used a Thunderhawk?How is it competitively ? I ve been wanting to scratch build one for some time now, want to know if its worth the effort.
Do different chapters get different versions of a Thunderhawk?
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