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post #21 of 166 (permalink) Old 05-31-10, 04:43 PM
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lol i already did havn't u heard of the IInd and XI...OOOOHHH Right... of course you haven't
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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/...b9aab7.jpg?v=0

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If thats not bad enough we have this ass hole riding his former life partner that turned into a dog because they don't have wolves on Fenris....

http://milsims.shopau.info/catalog/i...g/img10688.jpg

So the savage or drunk lords of Fenris have a gene mutation that changes them into dogs... and then they get ridden by the guys waiting to change into dogs

Ultramarines are even cooler than these guys.

Ok I'll get off my soap box now hah.

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This is hard, Logar for causing the whole god damn heresy by bieng weak enough to be manipulated by his underlings. Or Russ for destroying the 1k sons and driving them to heresy.

Same legions as above primarchs. In the end i'm leaning towards Logar for causing the whole god dammed heresy.

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Primarch - Guilliman, because he has done nothing except destroy the might of the imperium after the heresy, he loves himself and he was unable to co-operate with the other primarchs because he couldn't bring himself to believe that he wasn't the most amazing and fantastic being to have ever lived.

Legion - Ultramarines. They played no part in the defense of terra(by the time they got there Horus was dead and the Emperor was a vegetable) and they then insisted on their primarch writing a book on how Space marines should behave.

"If toast always lands butter-side down, and cats always land on their feet, what happens if you strap toast on the back of a cat and drop it?"

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Primarchs: Mortarion for his moaning in 1k sons, Dorn for getting killed by a non primarch (probably), his chapter half massacred by Perturabo and getting pwned by Night Haunter. Fulgrim for the whole perfection obsession.

Legions: Emperors Children because of their arrogance.

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Primarch: Hm...its a tad tough but it'd have to say Guilleman because of his huge ass-hattery he did right after the Heresy. Let's see while all the actions happening on Terra, the supposedly largest legion during that time, the Ultasmurfs, are conviently on the other side of the galaxy being distracted by a relatively small contingent of Word Bearers (in comparison) who already lost one of their major ships. After all this he then writes a freaking book on tactics?!? I don't know but it all this seems ridiculous and out of everyone just seemed to take advantage of the situation to put himself in a prominent position.

Legion: Definitely Death Guard or Emperor's Children, Death uard since they really had no reason to rebel and EC cause they are REALLY f'ed up.

My advice to you is to get married, if you have a good wife you'll be happy; if you get a bad one you'll become a philosopher.

In the grim darkness of the future the economy has even hit daemons, The Changeling is working at White Castle and Skarbrand is giving head in the alley next to Fateweaver's.You ever receive fellatio from a rhyming demon? It's a bad scene man.

Sticking your junk into a fang-filled mouth that breathes fire doesn't strike me as particularly smart.
Which is why that option should be available to any willing to take it.

In fact, there should be fang-faced, firebreathing demons on every streetcorner offering to pay 100 dollars to give BJ's. The gene pool would be vastly better off without anyone incapable of thinking it through.
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Primarch: Hm...its a tad tough but it'd have to say Guilleman because of his huge ass-hattery he did right after the Heresy. Let's see while all the actions happening on Terra, the supposedly largest legion during that time, the Ultasmurfs, are conviently on the other side of the galaxy being distracted by a relatively small contingent of Word Bearers (in comparison) who already lost one of their major ships. After all this he then writes a freaking book on tactics?!? I don't know but it all this seems ridiculous and out of everyone just seemed to take advantage of the situation to put himself in a prominent position.
You mean after Horus, his commander, told him to assemble on the other side of the Galaxy because he was afraid of the might of the Ultramarines and their peerless general Guilliman. And then they were attacked by the majority of the Word Bearers Legion, the 2nd largest Legion.

Then after he sacrificed most of his Legion over the years to keep the Imperium held together (after all the Scouring took at least as long the Heresy itself) he decided to alter the Imperium's military so the same sort of civil war couldn't occur again when Leman Russ and Rogal Dorn were being mindless warriors rather than leaders. Guilliman only pressed for the separation of the Legion's into Chapters, he didn't attempt to force any of the Chapters to follow the Codex more than that.

The Codex itself wasn't based solely on Guilliman's view points, it was a tome based on the view points of all the primarchs (even the traitors- e.g Guilliman included strategies regarding siege craft provided by Perturabo).

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Primarch: Anyone who's read Angels of Darkness will agree that The Lion is the worst of the lot. Ever wonder why this peerless tactician, never before beaten in battle was slowed by the commanders of chaos reinforcements and a few rouge governors?

The reason he didn't reach Terra in time was simple: He was waiting to see who would win....

Legion: Space wolves. Even cultures that surrendered were destroyed by Russ (who was a close second to the lion) and his mutating sons. They are probably responsible for more damage to cultures than the World Eaters and Word Bearers combined due to their destructive and merciless regime and are no better than savages now.

Despite having the curse of the Wulfen no-one seems to care though which is odd as the Blood angels are ridiculed and they didn't anger the Inquisition after Armageddon. Its not really a point against them but it always annoyed me that they get off scott free with their uncontrolled werewolves where as the Blood Angels openly accept and deal with their turned Brothers by killing those turning, imprisoning the turned or even keeping them for one last fight and get more flak for it than anyone else!

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The Codex itself wasn't based solely on Guilliman's view points, it was a tome based on the view points of all the primarchs (even the traitors- e.g Guilliman included strategies regarding siege craft provided by Perturabo).
The new book "Chapters Due" even suggests that average astartes had an input, at least by the 41st millenia. 2nd captain Sicarius of the Ultramarines claims to have written a verse or two.

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Primarch: Anyone who's read Angels of Darkness will agree that The Lion is the worst of the lot. Ever wonder why this peerless tactician, never before beaten in battle was slowed by the commanders of chaos reinforcements and a few rouge governors?

The reason he didn't reach Terra in time was simple: He was waiting to see who would win....
True, but that was according to Astellan who could be biased or at least opinionated.
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Legion: Space wolves. Even cultures that surrendered were destroyed by Russ (who was a close second to the lion) and his mutating sons. They are probably responsible for more damage to cultures than the World Eaters and Word Bearers combined due to their destructive and merciless regime and are no better than savages now.
I respect your opinion but you really need to read the wolves omnibus and A Thousand Sons..... they are far from savages.
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