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was the emperor always so bad ass or did he change himself like he changed space marines? i think he would kind of stick out in the human population. so how did he got so powerful?

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The Emperor's origins are unknown. Although there are many varied theories ranging from the background given in the The Lost and the Damned (Shaman Theory), to fan made theories, like him being an Ascended Old One.

He was/is the most powerful Psyker in the galaxy, he was easily able to change or morph his appearance on a whim, thus being able to 'fit in' if he really was naturally a golden giant. Honestly though I find it more likely that he was actually 'normal' sized and had a generally 'normal' appearance, but the Golden Giant that we know him as during the Crusade/Heresy was either merely a projection of his immense power or he genetically altered himself, in a way similar as to when normal humans become Astartes.



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was the emperor always so bad ass
Actually, before he became a near-dead corpse strapped to a giant mechanical throne, he was even more badass.
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In the "Tales of Heresy" short story "The Last Church on Terra" a robed man turned up in a church up in the mountains that had survived the Emps purges to date and had a discussion about religion and it was stated that the priest noticed that when the robed man sat down on a chair it seemed that the chair was straining under a greater weight than that of the man. I believe that he was the golden giant he is portrayed to be rather than a physically normal man that used his psychic powers to increase his size. He was probably "perfect" in every way(physically, psychically, etc) and as K3k3000 says, even more badass than ha is in the Golden Throne

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He's kinda like North Koreas kim il sung in that he single handedly grew all his countries crops, invented every modern convienience etc etc

Most of it is probably meant to be depicted as imperial propaganda in the fluff, though he his supposed to be a powerful psyker in the storyline, and also he probably further enhanced himself with some tech.

The whole being 50 millenia old thing should rly be taken with a pinch of salt
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the mechinicus hh book mentions that has also lived through several different human eras and was only in his true form at the beggining of the unification wars and onwards to the great crusade.

I just cant wait to the day he is reborn both in the gaming world and fluff/novel world!!! mind you it will most likely be in the 41st millenium real time the way GW works
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I just cant wait to the day he is reborn both in the gaming world and fluff/novel world!!!
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In the "Tales of Heresy" short story "The Last Church on Terra" a robed man turned up in a church up in the mountains that had survived the Emps purges to date and had a discussion about religion and it was stated that the priest noticed that when the robed man sat down on a chair it seemed that the chair was straining under a greater weight than that of the man. I believe that he was the golden giant he is portrayed to be rather than a physically normal man that used his psychic powers to increase his size. He was probably "perfect" in every way(physically, psychically, etc) and as K3k3000 says, even more badass than ha is in the Golden Throne
Good spot.

That does suggest that he either was perfect to begin with or he genetically altered himself to the point of perfection. I mean taking the genetic possibilites the chances of a human becoming perfect, a huge golden giant from two normal parents is next to impossible which suggests he made himself perfect by genetic alterations.

However then we are talking about a fantasy universe where space marines shoot alien and mankind controls the galaxy so our logical conclusions mean very little

I personally believe that he was a exceedingly powerful psyker and that he dabbled in genetic threrapy mutating himself to perfection.

That plus the psychic aura he projected must have been overwhelming to any human and made him a god in there eyes

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...when the robed man sat down on a chair it seemed that the chair was straining under a greater weight than that of the man....
Certainly the story supports the Emperor being able to change his visual appearance; however I read that passage as the chair bending under the hidden weight of Custodes armour, not the Emperor being much heavier than a normal man.

That said it seems very unlikely the Emperor did not use any of what would become geneseed augmentations.
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The Emperor's origins are most likely the biggest mystery in 40k fluff. He didn't appear before humanity until the end of the age of strife. If what they say about him rising from self-sacrificed shamans is true, then he is here, right now, amongst us! If the shaman theory is correct then that means he has seen the development of mankind for centuries.

I could imagine him meeting Jesus, conversing with Charlemagne, or even having tea with Abraham Lincoln. Somebody who would live long enough to do these things, be inspired by people like this, witness mankinds achievements and follies must be brimming with knowledge and wisdom. I believe somebody like that is, and always will be, badass IMO.

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